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115365 No. 115365
8 EST Friday night people! The return of Studio Mir!

Lots of people within the production have been praising these episodes. I think we're in for a real treat.
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>> No. 115502
Dude you are really thirsty.

Here's a newsflash for you: retcons are not always necessarily bad. I'm not saying this is one, and if it is it's not as massive as you claim it is since it's obvious you've been going through episodes of ATLA with a fine tooth comb looking for snags and then make them out to be huge knots because you're obsessed with propagating this image you've created of yourself.

I mean if you think Bryke are the first creators of something to possibly retcon something for a number of reasons which could range from "it didn't fit in the original but now it does" to "we like this way better" I don't know what kind of world you live in. And again, if this was a retcon (it isn't, you're just being obtuse because you're either really bored or really obsessed) it's not as massive as you think it is.
>> No. 115503
To be honest I don't really know why I care so much. It's not like Legend of Korra is canon.

>> No. 115504
They weren't handing out bending any longer, but humans also didn't have to return it when they were done, so it became a thing that could be passed down
>> No. 115505

AAaaand now I finally have to take action, yet again.
>> No. 115506
its been a day,do we have 34 of Wan's cute lemurspirit boyfriend yet?
>> No. 115507
Is this available on mediafire yet?
>> No. 115509

Hm, well Roku did interpret the "Four Nations in Balance" thing as no one having more power than the others, to the extent where even the creation of a fifth nation were people from the others lived in peace was met with a cry of "No, this is wrong, back into your own territories folks".

Admittedly he probably meant people not having military control over the others, but he kind of comes across as a segregationist.
>> No. 115512
thinking about it maybe Unalaq thinks the Avatar is out of Balance without the other spirit and seeks to bind them together within the Avatar. And likely he's talking to Vaatu who's not helping things with that idea. Though watching them and some others mutate with spirits will be something. I WAS ONCE A MAN!!!! Oh what is Eska gets Spirit Whammed?
>> No. 115513
Here's the thing people are forgetting about these episodes: EVERYTHING took place inside Korra's mind! She's the ONLY ONE (besides the audience) who witnessed these events. I'm sure some minute knowledge of this story exists in somewhere in Korra's era, but no one alive knows the entire story the way Korra does now. Remember that Roku didn't know about the Lion Turtle and while Kuruk knew who Rava was, it was probably because he spent a lot of time in the Spirit World searching for Koh.
These aren't retcons, they're revelations. There's a HUGE difference. The Lion Turtles may have bestowed the elements onto humans via energy bending, but it was the dragons and others taught people to actually BEND said elements. Everything Guru Pathik says still holds true on a spiritual level, but I doubt even he knew how it all began.
No, we will never know every single thing about how this particular universe was formed, but the mystery is part of what makes this story so intriguing. If you're the type that needs to have everything laid out and you need to have every single detail spoon-fed to you, then you are sorely lacking in any imagination. I feel sorry for you because you will never be able to truly enjoy anything.
>> No. 115514

Don't worry about that shitposter. This has now been the 3rd time he's been banned.
>> No. 115515
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that was pretty freaky seeing what happens to people that get possessed by spirits. Sadly for this fella is was some little tree spirit that got spooked and tried to get away.
>> No. 115516
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Too bad a giant lemur didn’t possess him. This guy doesn’t look as ugly.
>> No. 115517
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Aye-Ayes aren't lemurs.
>> No. 115518
But they are. I've been hearing this so much in the past couple of days I wonder if it's the same guy.
>> No. 115519

Aye Aye Classification and Evolution:
The Aye Aye is a species of Lemur that is found inhabiting the rainforests of Madagascar...
>> No. 115520
I wonder if the approaching of the convergence, which seems to have weakened the seals on the spirit portals, meaning a possible weakening on Vaatu's cage as well as a strengthening of Vaatu himself, has maybe been the reason Korra's had so much trouble connecting to her spiritual side. It's not that she just hasn't been able to do it, but there's been actual interference from the spirit world diminishing her connection to Rava as Vaatu gets stronger.

That would also explain why the Avatar state never activated to save her ass at any point during the first season. You know, like when Amon was about to take her bending away. That seemed like it would have been a good time for an automatic defense system to kick in.

Granted, it would most likely be a retcon, as I don't think they had any of this in mind when they wrote the first season. Retconning isn't always a bad thing, so don't take it that way. As long as it fits to the story and doesn't contradict anything and this would work as good explanation as any for why the Avatar State never kicked on in several situation for which it should have.
>> No. 115521
That is a very interesting and well thought out theory. If it turns out to be the actual case I can already hear that segment of the fandom screaming bloody murder.
Le sigh ;_;
>> No. 115522
Now I wonder what Amon's bloodbending did re: Raava. Did he cut off Korra's connection to her? That must have been a terrifying couple of days for Raava too... whatever part of her still exists separate from Korra, if it all.
>> No. 115523
Wonder if she'll have some interaction with Raava with knowledge that the Avatar Spirit is sentient. Course her flashback might be all that is left with Raava and the Avatar being one for the last few Millennium. Oh they would lose their shit soo much if the despised Korra goes all Kaiju giant Polar Spirit Monster in this seasons showdown.
>> No. 115524
I assumed the whole bending origins thing boiled down to the Lion Turtles simply giving them a fairly advanced understanding of how to do it, or unlocking their potential, or whatever.
All of the humans would have been able to learn to bend without visiting the Lion Turtle had they studied the appropriate animals, but since they were seemingly fairly isolated at the time, they instead got it from the Turtles.
Once the Lion Turtles stopped giving humans the ability to bend and let them roam free, they sought out other creatures who could control the elements, and learned from them.
This is somewhat supported, like someone else said, by the fact that Wan and the other firebenders started out as "guys who shoot fire," but once Wan studied the dragons, he became more of a true firebender.
tl;dr the lion turtles basically programmed the people to immediately have like 2 months worth of karate lessons in their brain, while when learning from the animals, it was more like taking the time to really study the martial art and truly understand it.
>> No. 115528
The lion turtles gave them the power, the element manipulating part.

The dragons, etc gave taught them the technique, the martial arts part.

Discussion over.
>> No. 115529
I just wish these last two episodes didn't boil it down into Good God vs. Evil God. While there are a lot of good or evil creatures in far Eastern cosmologies it's not as blatantly dualistic as Near Eastern/Abrahamic religions tend to conceptualize it. Good as a standalone story, but I'm a mite disappointed at how it got Hijacked by Jesus in the context of the whole series.
>> No. 115530
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking. The Lion Turtles gave them free bending powers, but once they stopped they had to learn it again from the bison/badgermoles/Dragons/Moon from scratch. The consequence of the Lion Turtles was more about letting them know that it was possible in the first place. Wish they explored the spiritbending aspects more to give insight on the ending of the first series.
>> No. 115532
Rava and Vatu aren't gods, they're spirits. Christianity and other Abrahmic religions do not have the monoploy on "Good vs. Evil" stories. The concept of "Hijacked by Jesus" is the perception that you have for being raised in/around modern monotheistic patriarchal belief systems.
>> No. 115533
While there were some allusions to things like original sin, the story of Vaatu and Raava was in no way 'hijacked by Jesus' or majorly influenced by western religion. Vaatu WAS sort of simplified for the obvious sake of it being a kid's show (I think people need to stop hoping for a morally grey villain from this show, I don't even know why it's expected) but they still had moments like him saying he can't ever actually be defeated, and considering what he is that obviously wasn't a Disney villain speech.
>> No. 115534
Raava is female and "god" is a gender-neutral word. I don't see what that has to do with this.
>> No. 115535
Then you didn't actually read all of my post.
>> No. 115536
So there's a lot of talk about the possibility of an anti-avatar, i.e. someone (Unalaq / Varrick) merging with Vatu.

I'm kinda hoping Unalaq's goal is actually to destroy Vatu.
>> No. 115538
I'm 50/50 on that theory -- it would be a pretty good twist that despite being an antagonist Unalaq ultimately has good intentions (and would resolve the issue of what happens to the water tribes if he dies/is imprisoned and leaves the throne empty, the fandom would shit itself to death if Korra's royalty was restored). On the other I think it would be pretty good that even though he's done things like purify dark spirits (which is what people think he wants to do with Vaatu) at the last second he says "nah fuck that" and tries to do something stupid just for it to blow up in his face. That sort of thing does run in Korra's family, after all.
>> No. 115539
I'm hoping on them expounding exactly what he does to pacify the spirits and if it's water-only or if that's just because it's his or Korra's native element.
>> No. 115540
I think it's more a possibility that Vatu is using Unalaq. Manipulating and lying to him (the way he convinced Wan to release him from Rava in the first place) into freeing him. So there's a good chance, given that ten thousand years later most people don't even know about Rava and Vatu, that Unalaq thinks he's doing the right thing for the world and this spirit by releasing it.

Even getting his brother thrown out so that he could be leader might turn out to be something Ualaq did for what he considers the greater good. Giving him the power and authority to find a way to open the portals between the spirit and human world and release that poor tormented spirit that was wrongly imprisoned all those centuries ago.
>> No. 115551
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>the fandom would shit itself to death if Korra's royalty was restored

Yeah, I barely remembered Eska was a "princess" until Bolin mentioned it during his interview. It would be weird if Korra was a princess and the Avatar. Although then we could finally have a spinoff called Korra: Warrior Princess. Asami would naturally be Gabriel.

Now I miss having drawfags here.
>> No. 115553
But then you'd have all the people complaining about her "priviledged" birth again.
>> No. 115556
Not like the title would mean anything to Korra or that she'd ever really have the time to live the royal lifestyle, or even inherit the throne.
>> No. 115564
nah it would still end up going to Eska or Desna whomever survives the whole thing in the coming books.
>> No. 115566
Well, Tonraq said he wants to reclaim the throne, so I think if he did Desna and Eska would lose their claims (unless he named one of them his heir... don't know why he would though).
>> No. 115568
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Well it could go Queen Korra. I mean two books to go her dad could die during the next and SHE COULD WEAR THE CROWN UPON A TROUBLED BROW.
>> No. 115571
There is no one that would not appreciate the series going in that direction.... If Mako had not died.
>> No. 115582
Korra would only become queen if, for some reason, their inheritance is not included in the list of earthly attachments that they're supposed to give up. Pretty hard to maintain balance in the world when you control one of it's four constituent Nations, since bias is only natural.
>> No. 115630
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Well, you see whenever you notice something like that, A Wizard did it!
>> No. 115654
That doesn't really seem to be what it is.
It's more like the turtles gave people the power to punch and that was passed down to their descendants.
It wasn't until people studied the animals that they learned the kata and the most effective ways to punch.

It isn't like you can just punch even if you learn the katas or else everyone would be able to bend EVERYWHERE just because they learned how to move.
>> No. 115657
If the Airbenders are anything to go by it seems that everyone has some spark of bending potential in them, but it can only be awakened with enough spirituality. Perhaps one of the long term goals of the Air Acolytes is that their descendants will eventually develop Airbending as a result of their spiritual practices. Otherwise Aang and Katara would have to become the Adam and Eve of all future Airbenders.

Then again it's also possible that this was originally the case, but that Bryke decided to retcon it all with the latest episodes.
>> No. 115688
Airing schedule for the reminder of Book 2 via Bryan

>Friday, Nov. 1, 8:00pm – Episode 9

>Friday, Nov. 8, 8:00pm – Episode 10

>Friday, Nov. 15, 8:00pm – Episodes 11 & 12 (one hour!)

>Friday, Nov. 22, 8:00pm – Episodes 13 & 14 (one hour finale!)

>These episodes, especially the last four, pack a serious wallop, so those are going to be two incredibly dense, juicy one-hours. It has been a long, hard road to get these episodes finished. In fact, we’re still finishing the last one! It’s always down to the wire with us. Have a fun, safe Halloween and I hope you enjoy the back end of Book 2!
>> No. 115693
I knew there would only be 14 episodes, but damn, it doesn't feel like it's been long enough to be this close to the end yet.
>> No. 115694
Given that bending wasn't meant to be genetic it seems odd that only the descendants of Aang are airbenders. You'd think anyone who lived like an air nomad would be able to become an airbender.
>> No. 115696
I don't know, makes sense to me that those with a long lineage of airbenders will breed more airbenders than those with a lineage of firebenders and earthbenders, even if only because the family is more spiritually attuned to the element.
>> No. 115697
It's probably going to take a few generations of Air Acolytes before you start to see a reemergence of airbending.
>> No. 115711
Uh...guys? Wasn't there like, a new episode on tonight?
>> No. 115712

board's kind of slow this week, but yeah.
>> No. 115713

2nd Halloween weekend (Halloween on a Thursday = parties on two weekends). Internet in general has been slow tonight.

I'll make a thread (you know, it's not against the rules if you Anons make the episode thread. I'm always late watching the episodes anyway)
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