>>115220
That sounds like a good characterization for Sokka's more exaggerated moments and ties in with Sokka's love of shopping nicely.
What's important for the characters is particularly in the moments that their gender is a defining factor; like for instance Sokka falling in love with Yue. Assuming Sokkara is straight, how do you make that plot as significant without the forbidden love aspect, because it removes Hahn as an obstacle and, later on, any hesitation with Suki if they're just friends.

>>115554
They can still be important friends that helped reveal or nurture a part of herself she may not have previously realised, people who understand her on a different level than the guys she's travelling with. If Yue was the first true friend she's ever had, when Yue gives up her mortal life to take the place of the moon spirit, that's still really sad.

It's also possible that the love plot can be shifted to Aang, whether or not Aang/Kataro is still endgame. A lot of scenes would be different but it might be cute. Also if she's still *someone's* girlfriend we can keep that "My girlfriend turned into the moon"/"That's rough, buddy" exchange with Zuka later on, and I personally would want to keep that because it's still funny several years later.

I guess it's also worth noting that during the siege on the North, Sokka was accepted to fight with the rest of the warriors and his advice saved them from being discovered and wiped out immediately. This role would probably be given to Kataro instead because he's a guy. If Sokkara managed to prove herself before that and Yue vouched for her, she might be able to come along too, but I don't remember that episode well enough to speculate how it would go with lone Kataro or both siblings.

Can I share an opinion? I really don't like the names of the gender-bent water siblings. I mean, Kataro? Sokkara? Those just sound really clunky and forced and I don't like how similar the vowels in each name sound.

If I were naming them, I'd go with Kato (short, punchy, sounds like Bato) and Somma (swap the hard K's for the soft M's).

>>115562
I was thinking of suggesting perhaps Kataraq as an alternative more in the style of Unalaq and Tonraq but Kato from Bato does a similar thing better.
Somma just sounds too much like Summer personally. There was an idea on /co/ for a while that she might just adopt the masculine "Sokka" as a nickname to tie into the warrior identity and only really go by Sokkara in more feminine environments.

>>115563
Kataraq is way too similar to "cataract."

Kotaro and Kato are both actual names. I was using Kotaro somewhere upthread but switched over because everybody else was saying it with two As. Sokka is really hard to morph into a female name that keeps the Water Tribe /k/ sound without it sounding too similar to Suki. There are some names like Misoka that still have Soka/Sokka in them but they change the pronounciation of the O from /ɔ/ (canon "Sokka") to /oʊ/ (awful movie "Soaka").

>>115565
It’s actually closer to the Portuguese word “catarata”, meaning “waterfall.”

As for appropriate Water Tribe names, look up traditional Inuit names. There’s Atka (goddess of fertility), Kesuk (water), Malina (goddess of the sun), Sakari (sweet)… the list goes on.

>>115567
I don't think... you get it... the point is to keep the sames similar looking and sounding so that we can tell who the original character is by the name alone. Also I really doubt anyone is going to think of a Portuguese word before a common-enough English word...

>>115565
> Kataraq is way too similar to "cataract."
Ha, I'm surprised I didn't notice that
Like I said, I think Kato is a good alternative. Kataro does strike me as a little too obvious, though I don't have the same hang ups for Sokkara, it's preferable to "Sokki" or "Sakka".

>>115562
I like Sokkara. I will agree that Kataro/Kotaro could be better, though.

>>115572
My only problem with Kato is that it's super Japanese-sounding to me. You can reverse the vowels and get Kota, though, which is a name in Japanese but also several Native American languages, and it fits better with the other WT names.

Sakka's the best one I've heard for Sokka yet I think. Sokkara's too obviously Katara's suffix mashed onto the end of Sokka's name. I guess if you wanted to do that then you could go with Sorra but that's too similar to Korra...

>>115216
>>115215
>>115213

In "The Avatar and The Fire Lord" we see the portraits of the two Fire Lords previous to Sozin who were both male.
So across 6 generations (Sozin's Grandfather to Zuko/Lu Ten's generation) there is a 1/64 (1.5625%) chance of all the firstborns being male.
Which, to me, suggests that males are preferred for the position of Fire Lord.

>>115659
>So across 6 generations
Stop! You cannot include Zuko and Ozai's generations in that probability as we know for a fact neither of them did not have an older sister over who they could be preferred. The odds that there has not been an unmentioned firstborn daughter who was skipped over by Azulon, Sozin, Sozin's father, or Sozin's grandfather are 1/16, not 1/64.

Remember that taky bag Sokka bought?
I want his female counterpart to lug one around from the very beginning.
Probably fur lined since it's from the south pole and more feminine looking.
But that's where Sokka, in true female fashion, keeps ALL her stuff.
Make-up, maps, war paint, salves, snacks, boomerang, keepsakes and everything else that might come in handy.
Also at least one scene, where she beats someone over the head with it for lack of a better weapon.

>>115565
Cataract means waterfall too, is it appropiate?

Genderbents Ozai/Ursa as well, with the FN as a matriarchy.

>>115665
it's perfect

>>115666
ok, the thing is: which meaning will virtually 100% of the people reading this think of: clouded eye lens, or waterfall. i know a "cataract" can be a waterfall but that is an archaic and very obscure (no pun intended) word that nobody today uses in daily conversation. they will instead think of why their grandma needed to get eye surgery. "i went on a vacation to see the cataract at niagara" is bordering on nonsense. do u understand

>>115001
Someone in the Fire Nation makes more sense.
The thing about Zuko speaking out in the war meeting was that his outburst was completely selfless, he wasn't going to be one of those soldiers that were to be canon fodder so if fem-Zuko's backstory is going to contain a marriage, her objection can't just be on the grounds of "I don't want to marry him."
So, maybe there's some sort of lord or influential figure in one of the Fire Nation's outer reaches or colonies who Ozai doesn't thing is pulling his weight towards the war effort for whatever reason and Ozai is using the wedding as a means of getting his family and followers in one place so that he can basically Red Wedding them and replace them with somebody more ruthless and reliable. Fem-Zuko is horrified (and maybe has a friend in that family at the Royal Academy for Girls) and ends up scuppering the plans to Ozai's annoyance, then gets burned.

Reposting my favourite part of the 4chan thread:

>Well wouldn't wanna be Ozai.
>>destroy his empire
>>thwart his plans
>> take his bending
>> then fuck his daughter
>Most likely even on his throne.
>Damn, Aang

>>117050
This punishment is truly fitting.
There is no eventuality in this universe in which Zukaang does not happen.

>>117054
It's just such a wonderful way to add insult to injury.
Of course Aang would remain courtly about it, the public would soon start running their mouths on the whole matter.
Hell, Zuka might take it in better humour than he would.
>What's the matter, Avatar? Is it not true that I surrendered more than the country to you and we took the negotiations to the bedroom?
>I just think it's in bad taste.

>>117057
If that's the case, I can see Zuka being more happy to joke around like that with Aang but she'd get a bit self-conscious and flustered when other people teased them. The Search would give Ursa her first chance of weighing up her daughter's boyfriend and embarrass her by asking if she had plans to become a Mother herself one day while Aang worries about making a good impression and whether or not the Avatar is even allowed to date the Fire Lord.

>>117065
I'm gonna bet dollars to donuts that Sokka had something to do with that story taking off.
>Don't get me wrong, he's cute. Not Turn-on-your-homeland cute, but I guess you take what you can get.
>You are mistaken. It was my decision and mine alone.
>And his big brown eyes had nothing to do with it?
>They're grey actually.
>A-HA!
>L-look I won't deny that he had a part in bringing me around-
>Yes, but did he bring you round and round, if you get what I'm saying?
>...I don't understand
>Oh yes, you do. If I was gonna antagonize my dad, it'd be for a boy who knows his way around a-
>ENOUGH! I will stop talking to you! You're just horrible!
>That's cold, sister. Come on, I was just messing with you.

>>117068
And no doubt she'd let Zuka know that Aang (probably) had a thing for her in the first few months of their journey before going off to interrogate about his "abilities".
Although, outside of the ribbing, Sokka and Zuka would get on well. They still went through the Boiling Rock together with Suki, like some sort of bizarre Charlie's Angels.

>>117069
Oh god. The Boiling Rock would kinda become like one of those sleazy "Women in Prison" films, at least for a while. I expect atleast one shower scene.

>"Maybe I should flirt with one of the guards. You should too, that'll double our chances."
>"But the guards are all women here!"
>Sokka grabs Zuka's face and looks her in the eyes
>"You really are too pure for this world!"
>A female guard walks by and throws them a glance
>"Get a room, dykes!"

>>117072
I'm just worried how Hakoda will hold up on the zeppelin to the Air Temple after spending weeks in Fire Nation holding and suddenly finding himself alone with his overjoyed and enthusiastic daughter, the shy and awkward teenage princess of the Fire Nation and the prime physical specimen that is the leader of the Kyoshi Warriors, all ready to celebrate after their big prison bust wearing either prison rags or whatever it is Fire Nation guards have on underneath their heavy armor.
A lot of sitting down and leaning forward, I imagine.

>>114953
I feel as though the disparity between Ozai's attention towards Zuka and Azulon would be even greater than that between Zuko and Azula simply because Azulon, as a boy, would more greatly Ozai's narcissistic reflection of himself.
Azulon projecting both his need of a nurturing figure AND his resentment towards Ursa's absence onto Zuka is some really meaty stuff. I love the idea of Azulon emotionally blackmailing Zuka to stay with him, care for him and dote on him with that "If you're not here, I might go off the deep end" bullshit.

>>117079
Agreed.
I also think the gender reversal makes the roles of Katara and Sokka more interesting. Because Kato or Kataro or whatever would still be the team mom, while Sokka's aloofness would translate into some kind of responsibility-shy party gal. In fact Sokka would dodge most of the conflicts Katara got into, because she wouldn't want to get involved.
Take the northern Watertribe. She wouldn't change the system, rather she'd run along with it until it gets in her way and then find a loophole or simply ignore it. Whichever is less work.
Pakku would blow a gasket with her around.

>>117087
Yeah, Sokka's an obvious opportunistic counter-balance to Katara's idealism. Still loyal and courageous but very pragmatic and adaptive, ie., his sexism wasn't something he was commited to, it was just his way of explaining the world based on his observations and it benefited him as a quick answer to whatever he and Katara might be arguing about. As soon as he saw some evidence that countered his view and Katara developed some independence, he quickly dropped it and adapted himself accordingly.
As a replacement to that, F-Sokka might adapt a more blatant "Brothers in Arms" identity, seeing as she can't latch on to her gender as an explanation for why she sees herself as M-Katara's physical protection, she could use her prefession instead.
This leads into the meeting on Kyoshi island but instead of Sokka's mascunlinity which is hurt, it's her belief in her identiy as a warrior (which overlaps in normal-Sokka's case but here the warrior-ness would be empthasised) which would make the Sokka's eventual realization that she isn't as formidable as her teammates or as she believed she was all the more heart-breaking.
And at the North Pole, the repression of women wouldn't really bother her all that much. In fact, it could still be Kataro's story but from the other side if he's denied a chance to develop his healing abilities because he's a boy (I think it might already have been mentioned but Kataro spending time with the SWT's female healers from a young age in an effort to awaken his healing powers, which the tribe would benefit from immensely, would work as an explanation as to why he was so close to Kya and didn't go through Warrior training) and Sokka(ra) would only become superficially outraged at the status quo once she's denied becoming Yue's bodyguard, just because she's a girl.
And on Yue, I think without the mutual attraction to lower their defences, I would not be entirely against Sokka and Suki leaving eachother on bad terms after their first encounter on Kyoshi Island. Only because I think it would make Yue and Sokka's position as eachother's first female friend less poignant if Sokka had already become buddies with Suki, plus, it could be fun to see the 2 warrior girls reluctantly come around to the idea that they actually enjoy eachother's company at The Serpent's Pass.

>>117089
So really to sum Sokka's stance up:
>I should be allowed to do whatever a man does. Because I'm awesome.
In fact she'd probably hold onto the predefined gender models otherwise, like snorting about how the Kyoshi Warriors are probably just frustrated because they can't find any men. Or belittling Kataro for cooking and sewing, despite the fact that he only learned it because she half-asses the stuff she has no passion for.

While tomboyish, rude, crude and always ready for a scrap, she's also got that deluded self-image of being a classy lady on the inside and people should really treat her better.

>I should be allowed to do whatever a man does. Because I'm awesome.
That does sum her up and yeah, she also thinks she incredible at traditionally feminine things simply because she's a girl. At the start of Team Avatar's journey, she wouldn't believe that Kataro was capable of pooking after himself (preparing meals, sewing torn clothes) because he's a boy and she'd insist that they eat her crappy food and wear her amateurish patchwork. Eventually, she'd come to accept Kataro's place as Team Mom as Sokka came to accept that girls can fight.
Sokka's belief that she's also the perfect woman as well as the perfect warrior would also show up whenever she runs into a boy she likes, where she'd suddenly act like an attentive blushing rose, thinking that that's what all men want in a woman and trying to hide any signs of tomboyishness.
As for the Kyoshi Warriors, she'd probably see them as glorified girl scouts, perhaps mocking their geisha uniforms as too feminine for combat and taking it as a sign that they aren't proper fighters.

>>117102
>where she'd suddenly act like an attentive blushing rose, thinking that that's what all men want in a woman and trying to hide any signs of tomboyishness.
That character basically writes itself.
There's a lot of laughs in the idea of Sokka trying to use her feminine wiles on a boy and failing miserably.
Then when she has to show her intelligence and down-to-earth attitude, she actually succeeds. But she never quite puts two and two together.

I have officially given up hope for /co/.

They seem to have went down the path of /v/ and should forever be ignored.

The day is lost.

>>117107
But the question is; which boys should she pull that act on?
Haru? Jet? Bato?
And they're all Book 1, there isn't as much of a revolving door of guys for her to go for in Avatar as there is girls.

Kataro might have been the the most loyal, committed friend in cartoon history.
Katara's perception of Aang as the world's only hope didn't have anything to do with her gender, so that would remain unchanged if she was a boy. He'd naturally see Aang more as a little brother than Katara did and make a fuss about him being safe due to how important he was (threatening his love interest if she even thought about betraying him, anyone?) but Kataro would also have a fantastic admiration of Aang and his wisdom.
Obviously, the homoshipping would be ridiculous but that's par for the course.

>>117109
Jet could be an early example.
She'd swoon over him and play the dummy and he'd enjoy the attention
I'd like to see his face when she deduces that he's up to no good and foils his plans.
Then latter, when they meet up in Ba Sing Se.
>Baby, I swear I changed!

Otherwise I think Sokka would just be a flirt in general. Some anon had a hilarious passage where she fluttered her eyelashes at a butcher to get a better price for provisions.
>You know I'd do anything for a good piece of meat
Cue Kataro looking at her with horror and disgust.

>>117110
Best bros ever. And yeah, more than a little gay.
Especially the scene where he tells Zuka to not go breaking Aang's heart or he'll break her neck...

>>117113
So how do you see Sokka and Jet's relationship?
I'm thinking he'd be fooled by her flirting act because he probably gets it a lot, whereas F-Sokka would be internally as distrusting as M-Sokka was, but Jet's hot, so she'd try and keep this good thing going as long as possible until he does something really horrible (ambushing that old man) at which point Sokka would reveal she's not as air-headed as she seemed, taking Jet by surprise and seeing her as a potential threat.
In Ba Sing Se, I don't know about Jet being so blatantly still infatuated with Sokka to shout "Baby, I've changed!", he's too collected for that. I do, however think that he'd enquire as to the possibility the TV-Y7 equivalent of one last roll in the hay, because who the Hell wouldn't?
After all that, whatever some Sokkara/Azulon teasing could be fun.

Also, how would Kataro be fixed for love interests?

>>117122
I mostly agree about Jet and Sokka. Though I think it might be fun if he was kinda hung up on her. Not so much for her looks or even her personality, but because she schooled him and left him with his pants down (proverbially).
If anyone can get away with a reference towards casual sex, it's Sokka, as we've seen. You could have a scene of her and Jet walking out of a room, straightening their clothing or something.

We have to consider that Azulan, is basically framed by two buxom henchwomen at all times. The 4chan thread also seemed to like the idea of making Ty Lee the abused housewife and emotional chewtoy for him, while Mai looks on in silent disgust.
But all things considered, I wouldn't put it past them to have a slightly flirtatious relationship. After all, Sokka always knew she was meant to be a Princess and Azulon wouldn't mind adding something exotic to his collection. Also >>114946 implies we could have Azulon disguised as a Kyoshi Warrior getting hit on by f!Sokka disguised as Wang Fire.
I support that idea.

>>117127
Maybe there is room for Sokka to be Jet's one that got away, in a sense that he doesn't really love her but the fact that she out maneuvered him (a guy whose sense of worth was built on manipulating the emotions of others, girls particularly) makes Sokka a much bigger prize in his eyes.
Still, even if it was eating him up inside, I don't think he'd let it blow his cool in front of everybody (it's not quite as big a deal as FIREBENDERS!) but he might wait for the opportunity where he could have Sokka one-on-one and then play his "I'm not all bad. I've changed. We we had was good. Give me another chance." schmaltz because in Jet's mind, if he can bed her then it means he's won and he's manipulated her and therefore, he's the better strategist.
Of course, Sokka isn't Katara, so she wouldn't hold as hard a grudge against somebody who tried to use her. You could end the scene regarding Jet's attempted seduction with Sokka looking disgusted or annoyed and cutaway to some other characters doing something else, then the next time we see Sokka and Jet, you see them leaving a room and patting themselves down, maybe silently nodding in acknowledgment to eachother and play it as a gag that would hopefully go over the kid's heads before they're called over to the rest of the Gaang as it bleeds into the next scene.
For 63Sokkla (Sokklon?), it's obviously something that could never be taken seriously but at the same time, Azulon's supposed to be a serious villain, so there aren't too many opportunities to show him interacting humorously with members of Team Avatar. Something akin to Azula's scene with Aang in The Chase, where she imitates Zuko would do nicely.
As a Prince, Azulon could possibly be more blatant about his sexuality. Azula wasn't a typical princess character by any means but there were still certain ways in which she was expected to carry herself. Princes are trained to become Fire Lords and Fire Lords are expected to be dominant, so perhaps something along the lines of Azulon threatening to chain Sokka up and take her back to the Palace as an attempt to intimidate her, with Sokka not appearing nearly as horrified as Azulon might expect would be funny. The Kyoshi!Azulon/Wang Fire idea is also too good to pass up, though it means bringing the introduction of Wang Fire forward (shouldn't be too hard to work out, Sokkara will likely run into some situation in which a man disguise would come in handy).
The Ty Lee/Azulon/Mai thing, I'm in two minds about. Part of me wants to see Azulon be in a horrible relationship with Ty Lee, in which Ty Lee keeps convincing herself that he only lashes out because he's troubled/overburdened and that things will get better once the war is over but there isn't much Mai can do to help with that. She can't tell Ty Lee to leave him because she can't, he's the damn Royal Prince so Mai's just sort of there not really doing anything. Though, it does put a cool twist on The Boiling Rock by having Mai betray Azulon to try and assure escape for Ty Lee but would Ty Lee even come? I don't know, that could be a pretty big divergence from canon.
Another part of me wants to see Azulon and Mai betrothed for political reasons (Ozai did seem rather fond of Mai's family) with Azulon accepting because he understands he has to wed and bear a child and knowing that it doesn't restrict him from being with other women so long as he doesn't cause a scandal and Mai submissively accepting because it's what her family told her to do. This puts a greater emphasis on Mai's growth towards breaking away from doing what's expected of her and doing what she wants (again, peaking at her betrayal of Azulon at The Boiling Rock). In this scenario, Ty Lee is brought into the mix through Azulon simply wanting her as a plaything and he openly flirts with her in front of Mai because he doesn't respect either of them and he's assured enough that they won't turn on him. You could even go further and make it an attempt from Azulon to keep the girls from getting too close by trying to instill some jealousy over himself between them but it backfires as Ty Lee and Mai are made too uncomfortably be his sleaziness and that's what unifies them against him.
I think there's potential in both scenarios.

>>117073

...Really?

>>117128

I really don't think being this dominant Alpha Wolf women-are-mine-to-deal-with is really Jet at all, though. His big beef was the Fire Nation/Firebenders, not being a boss that was above others. Jet did what he did because in his mind, it was just dues for the pain caused by the Fire Nation. Innocent or not, they were Fire Nation, Fire Nation killed his parents, so he was going to get revenge, it was never about being the leader of the Freedom Fighters, it was about the Freedom Fighters fighting the Fire Nation. I don't know how many other girls he had in his team, but he doesn't act like that around Smellerbee. Plus, he wasn't out to manipulate Katara, he had found a pretty girl who was fighting on his side of the war, and shared his pain. What screwed them up was that she didn't share his anger or lack of discretion towards the Fire Nation as a whole.

I'm also a little loathe to turn Azula's male counterpart into some sort of wife-beater. Azula actually did enjoy Ty Lee's friendship, and leaving aside the part where she got her to join via coercion, otherwise didn't treat her like less of a person.

Plus, Azula's/Alulon Jr's 14, goddamn..

>>117129
Yeah, I'm not convinced myself about some of the Jet stuff, like I said, I don't see him as being too obsessed over Sokka so late on (maybe still interested/attracted but not madly). It's largely a theoretical interpretation of what might happen if somebody was to get under his skin like that, the difference from M-Sokka was that F-Sokka wasn't blatant in her distrust right away and that being fooled like that could have unearthed some insecurities that may or may not have been present in Jet. The closest we've seen to this situation with Jet is Zuko and Iroh fooling him that they weren't firebenders and he took that very much to heart, though of course that ties in to his history with the Fire Nation. Potentially, there was more at play to do with his ego but it's very much down to interpretation and it's not necessarily a definative portrayal of Jet.
As for Azulon, I'm not sure what his age really has to do with it. The most adult thing I put was about chaining Sokka up, which was vaguely worded and being engaged to Mai (Azula getting engaged was a discussed potential plot in ATLA) there's nothing overtly sexual, just that he'd be more macho and less subtle than Azula. If Azula was put in a position where she thought it was advantageous to try and manipulate a boy's feelings I wouldn't think that was beyond her and if Azula spent any significant amount of screentime with two viable partners rather than two girls and members of her own family, I think that relationships with her would be explored but Azula was abusive and intimidating and her friends did not trust her and that would likely only be catalyzed if romantic ties were involved.

>>117130
Lets not forget that Azula also kept Mai and Ty Lee in line via bullying and subtle threats. And in a male version, you probably couldn't help but see some sexual undertones there.
Ty Lee being kinda in love with him is a given, after all she had nothing but admiration for Azula, so she'd be smitten with the male version.

As for the idea of a betrothal:
I think it could be nice, but it also might open up a can of worms. I just don't see Azulon being the type to bring his bride-to-be Avatarhunting.

>>117131
Unless he was trying to get her killed in the line of duty so that he could pursue some other option without losing the political clout that would come from the arranged marriage.

>>117133
Maybe it'd be better to just let the prospect of marriage hang in the air as a threat to Mai and a way to torment Ty Lee a little more.

>Don't be silly, Ty Lee. My father would want me to marry into an influential family. One who'd further his goals, with key positions in the Fire Nation. Take Mai for instance. She'd be a good match.
And when Ty Lee gets visibly upset he swings around and says how boring it'd be to be married to such a dour person, as opposed to her. It's really too bad

>>117131
Hmm... I hadn't thought about that.
If Azulon didn't just once Mai along for her knife skills I'd think that at least her social-climber parents would want to push Mai to spend as much time with the Prince as possible in order to make a good impression.
Azulon would know what they were angling and likely butter them up, describing how beautiful Mai was and how much he'd missed her companionship. Mai would just sit in silence, caught between Azulon's insincere flattery and her parent's glee before resigning to her fate and bluntly asking "Can we go already?"

>>117133
Ha! I definitely hadn't considered that. Presumably the arrangement would have Ozai's consent. I don't think he'd be best pleased if Mai got killed.

>>117134
Would it be too on the nose for Azulon to bring up Ty Lee's running away to the circus (ie. her attempt to establish a distinct identity and independence) as a reason she isn't as suitable a bride as Mai?

>>117138
Nah, I think with Azulon there is no such thing as "too on the nose". He'd be pretty quick to remind both girls of their shortcomings.

Zuka would get marginally better treatment compared to Mai and Ty Lee. Since he wants to keep her around as a surrogate mom.
I also noticed that he'd surround himself exclusively with female figures, which puts an even bigger exclamation point on his mommy issues.

Maybe his ideal scenario is to marry Mai, keep Ty Lee on hand as a mistress, but spend the bulk of his time with his dear sister doting on him.

>>117155
>Maybe his ideal scenario is to marry Mai, keep Ty Lee on hand as a mistress, but spend the bulk of his time with his dear sister doting on him.

A bit unrelated, but I think there's actually a theory in psychology or sociology or something that states that a man with multiple active partners can only maintain a close bond with up to three and that he'll categorize them into one of the three, sort of, aspects of sex; one woman for pleasure, one for procreation and one for companionship/romantic love. I don't know how valid it is but I've certainly heard it somewhere.
I suppose for Azulon you could tone it down so that Ty Lee exists to please him and provides the closest think he has to fun rather than just sexual pleasure, Mai provides marriage as a stand in for procreation and Zuka is there to care for him in stead of romance, in Azulon's ideal world, anyway.
I think for Azulon treating Zuka better it would largely be due to her obviously being at a higher station than Ty Lee and Mai, so he couldn't quite get away with as much with Zuka but also because she reminds him most of his Mother, he's most fearful of losing her because it would be like losing Ursa again and even though he hates his Mom, part of him recognizes how much her absence messed him up.
That could actually work as a bigger lead in to Azulon's breakdown than Mai and Ty Lee's was for Azula. When Zuka joins Team Avatar, Azulon loses his Mother figure twice, and having him start to snap earlier could be the impetus for Ty Lee to finally lose her love for him and leave with Mai at the Boiling Rock.
Or maybe not, I'm spitballing a lot. Azulon's a fun character.

Another thing to consider with Azulon is that, while Azula was considered a ruthless prodigy by the Fire Nation at large, he might have a more foppish and effeminate reputation with military officers and more common folk at least, considering his refined looks and his surrounding himself with women.

>>117159

I feel I should point out that women aren't really 100% secondary in the Fire Nation military. It's canon that the army is trained by women Firebenders, and that women make up a good deal of the Domestic army that stays at home to guard the Fire Nation while the rest of the men are usually the overseas force. Plus, Ozai, the ruler of the country, entrusted hunting down the traitor/failure royal family members and the Avatar to his daughter, the second born.

I'm just not of the opinion that we shouldn't really be pushing a sexism angle with the Fire Nation characters, it wasn't present in the original show, and it feels cliche to try and tack it on.

>>117159
>>117160
Yeah, I don't think the Fire Nation would view Azulon as effeminate for keeping exclusively female company. Hell, that's what Zuko did in his time in the Fire Nation and his reputation was far from stellar but I never got the sense he was seen as effeminate. Plus, Ozai never struck me as Mr. Macho Masculine, so I'm not sure Azulon would be regarded as anything particularly odd (for the Fire Nation Royal Family at least).
At the most, I think they'd see a young prince surrounding himself with highborn daughters as an available, desirable, teenage boy who's simply exercising his influence, perhaps a bit of a playboy reputation but even then, it's not like he's having Mai and Ty Lee bellydance and feed him grapes, they are actually getting stuff done.
I think Col. Gaddaffi had an all female personal bodyguard, perhaps that's a good parallel I'm kidding
Either way, I wouldn't want to get rid of Azula's formidable reputation among the military because she's changed into a boy, the fear and intimidation is something that should be true to Azula in any interpretation.