Is there a download link yet?

So we're all in agreement that this guy is the best new character and has the best dialogue so far?

>>113891
Yeah, he was a pretty fun character. I feel like i'm the only who doesn't care much for the twins. However, i am going to give them a chance.

>>113890

http://www.4shared.com/video/t2gkEaTn/korra201202.html

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Poor Tenzin. He was probably really looking forward to his trip to spiritually guide Korra and have her get in touch with her past lives (and his dad) -- and then his dad's reincarnation goes off and rejects him. :(

I liked it, the pacing was still kind of weird but I felt like it flowed pretty okay when the episodes were played back to back. It feels like they write the seasons as just one big movie and then break them up into episodes.

Liked that they got to the plot right away -- there's probably something else to what Korra did when she released those lights, though I'm thinking Unalaq is the one controlling the spirits. He just conveniently happens to show up when the spirits are attacking, preaching about how corrupt the South has become and wow, he has a way to get rid of the spirits! That he also never told anyone about until one actually attacked. Korra just probably unleashed a whole wave of spirits for him to manipulate and use to tighten his grasp on the southern tribe.

Speaking of what Korra did, I actually found her anger to be incredibly valid and I'm disappointed that it looks like it's leading to 'Tenzin and Tonraq were right, Korra's not ready' when she finally realizes Unalaq isn't to be trusted, mostly because I think she gets too much shit from the fandom for just trying to do her job. On the other hand, it's also likely it'll lead to a compromise where Korra, Tenzin and Tonraq are all right.

Bolin and Asami just felt pretty pointless, sadly. The highlight of Asami's scene (besides Varrick) was her making actual expression that weren't sad. I feel like Bolin and the twins should have stayed behind with Asami, just to give them something to do. Same for the twins, they just felt really... there. The voice acting for them was also just bad, I don't know if Aubrey and the other guy just aren't used to being vas, or if they were specifically told to play up an awkward robot tone. Also felt like Janet really dropped the ball with these episodes, maybe that was an off recording session or something.

Overall I like what I see, though.

I only like Tonraq for his character, you guys, I swear!!

why are you so sexy tonraq

>>113897
>a way to get rid of the spirits that he also never told anyone about
Tonraq knew about it, though. Pity Unalaq doesn't seem too eager to share how it works. His motives are mega unclear.
Also, if it's only waterbenders that can do the whole spirit-calming thing, I'm gonna be major pissed. Water's OP enough as it is.

>>113896
That little doodle in the middle killed me. What happened, Tenzin? What made you into a fuddy duddy?

>>113902
>What happened, Tenzin?

well, it's probably that "vacation" tenzin that everyone kept on bringing up. We might just get to see him deck out an aloha shirt.

>>113899
>>113901
Dilfest dilf who ever dilfed since Ozai.

>>113892
I can see the twins potentially being pretty cool when their cold icy exterior inevitably melts

but right now I really hate their painfully monotone robot voices

I'm not sure if I should be pissed that they're already setting up another love triangle with Bolin, Eska and Asami or if the hug between them was purely platonic and my mind's been too poisoned by the media to even consider the notion of a boy/girl friendship with zero romantic undertones

I kinda like where they went with Mako at least so far.

>>113908
I'm pretty sure he's just complete bro tier with Asami.

http://family-room.ew.com/2013/09/13/legend-of-korra-season-2-burning-questions/

>>President Raiko becomes a significant presence in Book 2, as well as a new authority figure with whom Korra butts heads. Because this is a new adventure focused on the spirits and the spirit world, there wasn’t time to detail out all the fallout from Amon. But we wanted to show that Republic City had changed, thus the new President, who is a non-bender.

>>113897
I like the way the twins sounded, they reminded me of...

Very interested in seeing how Korra accidentally paving the way for the Water Tribe Hapsburg Jesuits pans out, but I would like to take this opportunity to agree with what >>113891 Mari said.

>>113917

I was expecting the twins to sound more like Raven from Teen Titans. But I agree with the other anon that they sounded pretty wooden, like those gags in cartoons where a character does intentionally bad acting.

Also, Varrick/Asami OTP, she played nicely off him.

"Yes"

ah to be frightened and aroused.

Love the twins and the crazy shipping magnate. Was expecting the uncle to be in control of the spirits to start with, which would explain why only he seems to be able to calm them.

Not over impressed so far. Korra was REALLY getting on my nerves... I expect some hardcore growth from this immature little douche-nozzle in the season. I found her behavior just REALLY hard to believe...

I mean, really. REALLY? You're going to tell Tenzin off like that? You're going to burn that bridge with that whole family? None of what you went through means anything to you? And how about asking why everyone has bad feels about spirit Uncle, huh? Damn!

>>113922
It looked like in the NWT flashback that there were other waterbenders capable of calming the spirits.

Also, fucking waterbenders are stupid OP.

>>113923
>I found her behavior just REALLY hard to believe...
She just found out the two men she's supposed to trust the most in her life were responsible for locking her up in the compound. Unalaq is right -- the Avatar IS supposed to travel the world, Korra has a huge handicap compared to other Avatars and she's only lucky that she's so young and has time to make up for that lack of experience. And considering how badly her childhood fucked her up on a personal level, yeah, "we were just trying to do what's best for you" is not going to cut it.

And THEN they go on to keep trying to make decisions for her, even though there's a potential issue with the spirits, something as the Avatar Korra is obligated to get involved with and instead of just asking her or talking to her about why getting involved is a bad idea, Tenzin and Tonraq just say no, you're not doing anything and we're not going to tell you why, deal with it. They can't keep that shit up for ever -- they've already been doing it for 13 years, there is really nothing stopping them from trying to keep it up once she's "ready".

It's not that Korra doesn't appreciate or love them, but they hurt her pretty badly. If I were in her shoes, yeah, I'd want some time away from them too.

>>113923

She's being a little shit, but no one's actually explaining themselves to her. They're just telling her to do stuff because it's best for her without telling her why. Plus she found out they lied to her her whole life about why she was left in a compound instead of taken out to travel and learn to be the avatar, and her father hid his past from her all this time.

>>113927
To be honest I think her getting angry at Tonraq over not telling her his past is an overreaction and doesn't make much sense, but that's what happens when you find out your dad's been lying to you for 13 years -- it gets really, really easy to get angry at him.

>>113928

She was already mad at him about keeping her holed up and not letting her make her own decisions. But yeah, sending her father off through the tundra was pretty horrible.

Hopefully this season ends with Korra growing into being less of a petulant child, and the adults in her life realizing that they have to step back and let her grow.

I thought everybody was being pretty unreasonable

Like, fuck's sake Tenzin you've seen yourself the water tribe has some crazy spirit shit going on, Korra learning how to do Unalaq's spirit taming golden shower trick and settle this business is hardly a bad idea

and damn Korra you don't need to cut all ties with Tenzin over this just ask for a rain check on the air temple field trips

>>113930
This issue is really not as simple as fandom is thinking, both sides are right to an extent.

Am I the only one who was surprised that Kya’s name is pronounced “KAI-ya” and not “KI-ya”?

>>113932

It's the same pronunciation from the unaired ATLA pilot when Katara was named Kya.

>>113928
But its also to show her going "Oh, I really fucked up" when Northern Oppression kicks off next. Maybe this will make her decide that Avatar shouldn't be in this kinda power position and try to become an impartial force for all.

i like how Korra is a native waterbender in an environment made almost entirely of snow and ice and she still defaults to fire whenever there's a situation

I was surprised that Korra didn't ask Unalaq to teach her how to banish spirits. Especially since they were going somewhere with spirits and these spirits repeatedly attacked them.

Here's my predictions:
Unalaq is evil and the spirits were trying to stop Korra doing something wrong (such as freeing an evil spirit or sealing good spirits).

Tenzin's storyline will eventually have something to do with the main plot.

Asami's story arch will eventually be relevant in some way.

Bolin may end up with Eska. Though their relationship will be difficult.

Korra will still act like a brat and will base all her decisions on what she heard in the last 5 minutes.

>>113939
Re: Point 2- There have actually been a few previews where it looks like Jinora becomes very important to the main plot.

Tenzin Season 1- "Korra, you need to learn spirituality!"
Korra Season 1- "Don't tell me what to do!"
Tenzin Season 2- "Korra, you still need to learn spirituality!"
Korra Season 1- "Screw you, I already know everything!"
Tenzin Season 2- "Seriously, come vacation with my family!"
Korra Season 2- "NO!"

Unaloq - "Hey Korra, can I interest you in some... education in spirituality?"
Korra Season 2- "CAN YOU?!"
Tenzin - -_-

>>113941
The difference being that what Unalaq teaches gives faster results, not to mention could potentially save lives and keep balance in check.

Tenzin's advice is basically "ignore it".

>>113941
>>113942
Korra basically had no interest in learning about spirituality until she found out it could potentially involve punching spirits in the face

>>113943
>Korra in forest
>just heard a story about her dad fucked everything up by recklessly bending in a sacred forest
>got really mad at her dad for hiding this story from her
>proceeds to recklessly bend in a sacred forest.

There's a limit to how stupid you can be and this is beyond it.

>>113946

It was already trashed!

>>113943
>Korra basically had no interest in learning about spirituality until she found out it could potentially involve punching spirits in the face
In that case, Korra has my vote for best Avatar.

>>113943
No she didn't, she wanted to get involved right away and still stuck by Unalaq even when he said she wasn't going to learn how to fight spirits.

Eska is love

>>113950
that fucking Wednesday Adams fan-fiction from a while back means I can't unsee scary sexy times.

>>113949
The last time Korra ran off half cocked without listening to anyone's advice, the bad guy basically won and took away most of her bending. You'd think she'd have learned from that.

>>113952
"see I saved everyone and learned how to reverse those effects"

"yes, but you are still not ready Korra and you need more training"

"GAAAAHH I hate you all, I'll fight with my punches!!!"

>>113950
I'm just glad that US cartoon censorship is making sure Eska stays toned down, because if this were an anime Bolin wouldn't be be treated with such kiddy gloves by a female character of Eska's archetype. What we have, is amusing. Now take away the censorship and restrictions and watch it turn horrifying.

I once saw an anime where a possessive female love interest pressed her thumbs into the main guy's eyes so that he doesn't look at other women. Shit is horrifying.

Loved the airbabies and Aang's kids.

Eska's VA sounded really odd. I suppose they were going for emotionless, but it was strange.

>>113955
I am pretty sure strange and unnatural was what they were going for.
Be ready for when Unalaq turns out to have trapped Spirits in human form/removed his children's souls in a deal with a dark spirit/got it on with a dark spirit and had half spirit babies

>>113954

That's not censorship. That's just not being a shitty anime.

>>113954
>I once saw an anime where a possessive female love interest pressed her thumbs into the main guy's eyes so that he doesn't look at other women
I believe you're referring to Baka no Test, and if that's the case, the character you're referring to was a PARODY of those sorts of characters, taken to extremes. She was not meant to be endearing, she was meant to be funny because of how horrifying the archetype becomes when taken to such extremes.

>>113954
Is this a serious post? You're trolling me right? You can't possibly be this stupid.

>>113952
Tenzin and Tonraq were actively trying to stop her from doing her job. This goes beyond just "I don't like your advice".

>>113935
Korra's personality and fighting style is very firebender, even when she's using air or water she's basically "punch punch punch it until it's dead"

>>113935
This is only natural, since fire is the superior element.

Besides, the Poles are fucking cold. Throwing fire around helps keep her warm.

>Ozai and Iroh
>Azula and Zuko
>Tarrlok and Noatak
>now this

What is with Avatar and all of its fraternal/paternal figure hater-y?

I know you have 'good' sibling duo relationships on the protag side (Katara & Sokka, arguably Mako & Bolin), but even that's getting kind of tired as far as foils go.

>>113966
See >>112946

>>113966
I think Bryke either have sibling issues of their own, are REALLY big on the whole yin & yang symbolism which is best hammered home with siblings, or it's a bit of both.

>>113966
When it comes to nobility and royalty quite often children would overthrow their parents or kill their siblings in exchange for power. An example would be Emperor Taizong of the Tang Dynasty who killed two of his brothers, all the sons of his brothers, and forced his father to abdicate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Taizong_of_Tang

>>113966
When it comes to nobility and royalty quite often children would overthrow their parents or kill their siblings in exchange for power. An example would be Emperor Taizong of the Tang Dynasty who killed two of his brothers, all the sons of his brothers, and forced his father to abdicate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Taizong_of_Tang

>>113933
I never actually heard the unaired pilot.

Also, Commander Bumi has a beer belly, and Varrick isn’t as flamboyant as I thought he would be.

>Korra defending herself and bringing up good points on why she should be allowed to make her own decisions for once and not have her "mentors" hold her hand through every single task she had to do
>people complaining about how she's being "bitchy"

>>113975
Right. You don't have to like Korra, but you can at least try to understand where she's coming from.

>>113975
It's amazing that, for everyone who is complaining about her attitude would likely react the same way if they were in her shoes.

>>113975
>tenzin being stupid
>bolin being stupid
>korra being stupid
>everyone stupid
mako boring

>>113974

It also happened to be the same name they used for Katara's mother, you hear it in Season 3's "The Southern Raiders."

>>113932
>>113933

I'm pretty sure they (Sokka or Katara) say Kya's name at least once during ATLA's run, not to mention Katara specifically says both Kya and Bumi's name in the very first episode of LoK.

>Pema: Were Tenzin and his siblings this crazy when they were kids?

>Katara: Kya and Bumi certainly were, but Tenzin has always been rather serious.

>>113951

Link?

>>113951

Link?

>>113982

It's on /pco/'s erotic fiction thread.

>>113961
When left to her own devices and free to make her own decisions, she's proven to be terrible at her job.

>I'm not scared of Amon! I'm going to go alone to this showdown and be a badass. No, Tenzin, I'm the Avatar! It's my call!

>Amon ambushes her with two dozen men has her dead to rights, and could easily have killed there there had the writing not demanded he go all Bond villain and let her go with a warning.

>>113988
So what? They can't keep forcing her to hold their hands forever. What happens when she finishes her training and they still feel like she isn't good enough? Better she mess up now, when she can afford to fall back on others if she needs it. If Korra can't feel like the people who say they love her don't trust her to do a good job, what will she feel when she's finally allowed to go out on her own? That nobody thinks she can do anything?

Aang sure as hell wasn't ready, not even by the time the comet hit, but nobody tried to stop him even though he made some stupid decisions himself.

>>113989
Yeah, but with the comet, they were fucked either way. May as well have gone with the option that they felt was going to minimize damage, even if they knew the chances of it succeeding were slim.

Besides, there were times that people did call Aang out when they thought he was being stupid. It was one of the main things Sokka did throughout the series, with Zuko joining in on the act when he switched sides and he thought Aang's unwillingness to kill was a problem.

>>113990
People called Aang out but rarely (if ever) did anyone (and by anyone I mean the people closest to him) actually try to overstep Aang's decisions and enforce their own on his. Best example of this was him accepting Zuko into the group -- possibly only Toph was okay with it at the time, but it was ultimately up to Aang because he needed a firebending teacher.

Korra's NEVER going to have full confidence in herself if the people around her aren't willing to trust her every now and then. Hell, they may not even have to fully trust her but just respect it's her decision and she has every right to act on it. Korra's not asking for a new car, or for a puppy or whatever, she's asking to be treated as a human being and to be allowed to do her job, which is something she shouldn't have to ask for.

She STILL has a lot of learning to do, Tenzin is right, but there are some thing she's never going to learn if he or Tonraq are always there to grab and yank her back behind them every time she actually tries to do something on her own.

>>113977
NOPE. I would've talked it out and sought actual answers, not been a dismissive brat eager to rush into bad decisions.

>>113977
NOPE. I would've talked it out and sought actual answers, not been a dismissive brat eager to rush into bad decisions.

>>113992
Then they need to be able to let her fail, and the show can't do that for more than a few minutes at a time.

Korra needs a scar of some kind.

>>113995
She doesn't need a scar. She went through book 1 learning that things aren't always going to work out for her, that she's going to fuck up and get knocked down and all she can do is get back up and keep trying. She knows this already. Tenzin and Tonraq can't accept that though.

You know what I think Korra is missing? A Zuko.

Not the character, but the storyline. If you were to look back at ATLA and watch only Aang's story, or only Zuko's, I don't doubt you'd have similar complaints to what people say about Korra now. It was the synergy between the two that made the show so intriguing.

But really, I think that if they had had the time, and 8 extra episodes in season one to let the audience really get to know and connect with the characters people wouldn't be complaining so much.

>>113995
I was actually gonna call you an idiot until I remembered this.

For my part, I'm holding out a vain hope that we'll see one, just ONE main character who isn't either friggin' royalty or the heiress to the entire friggin' military-industrial complex.

And before you point him out, no, Bolin isn't a character, he's just a talking punchline.

I want to know what you all think of this.

>>113992
Why would you trust an imbecile like Korra?

>>114006
The funniest bit in the premiere.

>>114007

The whole point of the series is for Korra to make these kinds of decisions to see her either succeed or fail and learn from her mistake. She's the Avatar and the main character, it's the whole point.

>>114009
Well that's an assumption on your part. It could very well be at the end that she decides "I'm an idiot" and agrees to let her friends do the heavy thinking for her.

>>113955
>I suppose they were going for emotionless,

Nope, just creepy.

Beautiful creepiness. Bolin has found his dom, that lucky bastard.

>>114008
But doesn't that Air Acolyte look familiar?

She also mistook Tenzin's family for "servants"...

>>114008
But doesn't that Air Acolyte look familiar?

She also mistook Tenzin's family for "servants"...

>>114000
Well, we kinda have a reversed-Zuko in Asami. The storyline and scenario, anyway.

But, yeah, it doesn't really seem to be as prominent in LoK. Which is a pity, because at this point I think that Kora's lacking a good foil.

Always kind of amused by the people getting annoyed at Korra for acting like a privileged and extremely sheltered young woman who is used to getting her own way and didn't grow up around anyone the same age as her...

...which of course, exactly what she's like. The point of the show is that she's growing and changing as she fills her role as the Avatar.

Hell, even Aang underwent some character development in between the start of his show and the end of it (and it continues in the comics too).

Yeah, Korra has made a bunch of poor decisions, but they're mostly explained by her backstory. The point of a story is her evolving as a person, and her getting everything right (and BEING right) about everything first time would get really tiresome really fast.

I mean, if she was the sort of character that could do and say no wrong, I think that she would be even more unpopular because people would describe her as a Mary Sue (hate that term).

>>114021
I think the problem is that she only ever seems to get it wrong so far. I seriously can't think of any positive qualities she's displayed so far and her successes only ever seem to be her lucking out and not even a product of her hard work (which could've been a positive quality from season 1, but seems to be disregarded now).

There is nothing wrong with having a character being arrogant or even being stupid, but arrogant AND stupid with no positive qualities to back it up is a really irritating combination.

>>114023
>no positive qualities

Go watch it again.

>>114024
Go ahead and point out her positive qualities.

>>114025

Off the top of my head I can think of some.

Korra has been an extremely determined and resolved when she sets out to do something (example: heading further into the forest even if it means fighting dark spirits that have so far been immune to the bending she knows). Korra has been brave in the face of danger (example: despite getting knocked around by dark spirits, she does not run away or hide, she jumps right back into the fray). Korra has shown to be selfless when it comes to serving society (Example: she takes action she believes will have the most immediate beneficial impact for the Southern Water tribe, opening the gate at the South Pole, rather than seeking personal spiritual enlightenment and development with Tenzin and leaving the South to fend for itself). I think there's an argument for Honesty what with the aversion to secrets and straightforwardness with people. She can be disobedient when she doesn't agree with someone's orders, but I'm not sure if I ever recall her lying about it when confronted with the disobedience (in fact she tends to be rather upfront when she doesn't agree with someone). At any rate disobedience isn't the same as being honest. I would have to rewatch the series to confirm if there was anytime when she lied for her own benefit.

But anyways, those are some positive traits with examples of each. Determination, Bravery, Selflessness, Honesty (?). All are generally considered positive heroic qualities. There are probably others, this is just what I could think of off the top of my head.

>>114026
Korra's determination is pretty lacking, honestly. Faced with being a non-bender, she pretty much gives up completely. Also she has no determination to see her airbending training through. She's used to being naturally talented and hasn't really developed the work ethic that follows through with that.

She has determination to learn how to fight spirits, but that's only because she was immediately confronted with a spirit that bested her. She had only been mildly interested in Unalaq's offer to train her until that spirit beat the snot out of her.

Korra's bravery stems from her stupidity, she can only ever face a problem head on so she pretty much has to be brave. Regardless, I'll give you that much, she is brave even if it never does seem to do her much good.

Korra is not selfless. In fact, that's a flaw pretty much everyone agrees on.
>Korra for acting like a privileged and extremely sheltered young woman who is used to getting her own way and didn't grow up around anyone the same age as her...
The only time where you might misconstrue her actions as selfless ones would be when she stopped those triad thugs from harassing that shopkeeper. But that's quickly ruined by how she completely wrecks the shopkeeper's shop and the entire street. Korra was more interested in showing off and being the hero than actually helping the people there. She doesn't even regret her actions "because she was fighting the bad guys". It's about the worst display of heroism ever.

Honesty is only a good trait if you have tact to follow through with it and Korra doesn't. There are a lot of assholes out there who claim they're just honest, but the fact is they're just assholes.

>>114026
>>114027
I should've more directly addressed your examples.
>(example: heading further into the forest even if it means fighting dark spirits that have so far been immune to the bending she knows).
That's not really determination, more bravery than anything. Determination only really shines through when confronted with failure.
>(Example: she takes action she believes will have the most immediate beneficial impact for the Southern Water tribe, opening the gate at the South Pole, rather than seeking personal spiritual enlightenment and development with Tenzin and leaving the South to fend for itself).
This is the first step of her spiritual training AKA the first step to being able to punch spirits. Korra was willing to go before she even knew what was going to happen on the trip.

>>114027
>Korra was more interested in showing off and being the hero than actually helping the people there.

Now you're just projecting. She's frequently risked her life simply because "that's what the Avatar is meant to do".

>wrecking the shop

She grew up without having to use money, in a tribe where everyone helped everyone else out and a community would likely have helped fix any damage done to the belongings of an individual in the community. She's simply too much of a country bumpkin crossbred with someone that doesn't understand money to see any harm in the destruction she caused "saving the day".

>Also she has no determination to see her airbending training through.

I do not concur. Her problem there stems from her not understanding why her Airbending wasn't good enough. If she agreed she wasn't good enough but didn't want to finish her training THAT would be a lack of determination. But she sees what Tenzin wanted as a desire to polish the edges of something she had sufficiently mastered. Frankly Tenzin should have better demonstrated what she can't do yet so she'd understand her limits. But even though she disagreed with him and thought she'd mastered Air Bending sufficiently she was still going along with his wishes until she encountered the Spirits, and saw him completely Fail to deal with a major threat that Unalaq was able to handle. She abandoned her Air Bending training not because she lacked the determination to continue but because she genuinely doesn't see what she still has to learn, and because she thinks she saw something more important to deal with.

Part of her frustration really is a failure on her teachers' part. It's a classic example of a kid not understanding WHY they need to learn something and the teacher failing to explain beyond "you just do".