>>114070
And mothers are either traumatically gone or unimportant

>>114069

>Talking about building sand castles and sight-seeing

I...don't *think* Aang was teaching him much...

>making a judgement about a character based on a 90 second clip released by the same production that loves trolling the shit out of its fanbase with the teasers

Yeah, I'm gonna hold off. Bring on Friday.

Privileged isn't quite the word for Korra's upbringing. Basically when it comes to anything the White Lotus didn't teach her, she's clueless. And even without numerous flashbacks we could tell there was a LOT they weren't teaching her.

>>114074
yea she was extremely sheltered in her upbringing

>>114082
I think due to someones overreaction to Aang's hundred year absence they wanted to keep the Avatar as close to them as possible until needed. Thinking about it I get a real caged bird scenario going on.

>>114066
It actually does work for plenty of people in real life. There's no "right" way to motivate people to do the right thing. In fact, someone who isn't exactly the wise-elder and instead the down-to-earth-coach might be exactly who a jock-type character like Korra would need.

>>114096

Actually, there's a substantial difference between fostering intrinsic motivation (you want to do it because you want to do it) compared to external motivation (do this and you get that) in regards to both the overall performance, the happiness of those involved, and the nature of the enterprise- particularly if it involves being creative.

As you're yelling at said character they're going to go on the defensive and typically not integrate the message into their worldview so well, thus turning it into something they're made to do rather than something they want to do, thus lowering motivation and, as a consequence, performance.

I'm not debating that's it's reliable performance though.

>>114098
I'm not talking drill sergeant or whatever, but pretty much a no-bullshit coach you'd see in a sports movie. The sort of coach that sticks by their players and supports them, but when they need a wake-up call, isn't afraid to do some yelling to get their point across. Hell, if Tenzin did some sparring with Korra and wiped the floor with her, that'd be precisely what she needs to motivate her to go further. Exasperated sighs and silent disappointment isn't gonna cut it with a meathead like Korra.

>>114102
She needs a Splinter a person who knows their shit about both sides of the spectrum and can communicate that.

Did Mako seriously just call Asami a bloodsucking leech?

>>114115

No, he called a bad relationship a blood sucking leech.

>>114116
Eh... exactly how many relationships has he had, and how was theirs bad, except for him completely fucking it up? Why did he call Eska a leech two minutes later if that's the case?

>>114117
I keep feeling that he's supposed to be the future ex either by his own actions or an incident.

>>114117
>exactly how many relationships has he had
That's not really relevant, you can still learn a lesson from one relationship.

>and how was theirs bad, except for him completely fucking it up
It wasn't bad in the sense that they didn't work together as a couple, it was bad because his feelings for Korra were growing stronger, but he was unwilling to admit to it and stuck with Asami because he didn't want to hurt her.

>Why did he call Eska a leech two minutes later if that's the case?
What did he say, exactly? I missed that part.

>>114119
he compared breaking up with someone to pulling off a leech. thats it that was the line, and people are taking it out of proportion

>>114121
It's the in-universe replacement for ripping off a band-aid. If he had said band-aid instead would people be thinking he's calling Asami one?

>>114123
Band-aids protect and sterilize wounds. Leeches suck the blood out of you; so no; if he had the .02 ounces of tact it would have taken to choose any other simile, people likely would not be complaining that he compared his relationship with his ex-girlfriend who gave him food, clothes, a house, $30,000, and didn't really object all that hard when he was a complete piece of shit to her... to a band-aid.

>>114116

No he said a breakup was like ripping off a leech, not the person you're breaking up with.

Anyways, how come I gotta be the one that starts episode threads? Grumble, grumble...

>>114126
> people likely would not be complaining
Unlikely, in this fandom.

>>114124
Do they have band-aids in the Korra universe? It seemed like they still used cloth bandages, which aren't really a 'rip right off' sort of thing, since they're wrapped.

And now that I think about it, you don't rip leeches off either, you burn them, right?

>>114124
>>114126
The metaphor comes from the act of ripping it off, not the band-aid itself. You can either pull it slowly and deal with a lot of pain, or just do it quickly and only have so much of it for a shorter amount of time.

He is not saying the idea of his relationship with Asami was bad. He was happy with Asami. He cared about Asami. The problem was their relationship was going down the shitter but he was convinced they could fix things if they gave it time, and then it became obvious that wasn't going to happen so they ended up with a poorly worded break up.

You can either pull the leech off slowly and deal with a lot of pain, or just do it quickly and only have so much of it for a shorter amount of time.

The metaphor is not so much about what's stuck to you as it is the fact it hurts and it's better to rip it off quickly than do it slowly.

>>114131
Well he's either speaking from his experience or he's bullshitting him, and if he's speaking from experience, he doesn't really have any except Asami, so if he doesn't see what they went through that way, why would that be the first thing he ran to?

>>114130
They might have band-aids, but Mako's been super poor pretty much his entire life, and is probably more used to the 'medical skills' of crazy hobos who aren't really sure what they're doing, and a
may actively distrust the recommendations of authority.

As for removing a leech, you're supposed to leave a leech to just do it's thing, since that's less painful, as they inject a painkiller. And I'm pretty sure burning the leech is a bad idea, since it causes the leech to vomit the blood back up, possibly leading to blood poisoning.

Mako was literally leeching off Asami, her wealth and status, before he traded her out for the delicious brown. Maybe its supposed to be ironic?

You actually don't want to rip leeches off because once they latch on with their teeth, you can't rip them off without taking a chunk of skin off with them.

>>114166
or you have to use fire... and burn them off. Oh dear I hope that isn't clumsy foreshadowing.

>>114145
You're not getting it, Christ.

You can still care about the person you're in a relationship with even if the relationship itself is not working out. Mako cared about Asami. But it wasn't working out. Even if you care about the other person, still forcing yourself to stay in the relationship when it's not working out is not a good idea. You can, you know, still care about a person and not necessarily have a romantic interest in them.

>>114165
No he didn't, he never used Asami's wealth or status to further himself or Bolin unless *she offered it*. Did you watch the show?

> Thanks, Ginger! Go rest your gams.

In case anybody’s wondering, Varrick broke out some old-timey 1930’s vernacular when he spoke to Ginger.

>>114197
We need to get back to him making moving pictures. Oh maybe that will be Asami's next stage Industrialist and Movie Star

>>114198
I think we’ll be seeing Ginger appear in some more Southern Water Tribe propaganda, possibly with less clothing and more water tribesmen drooling over her.

>>114197

I wonder if her red hair has to do with how she looks in B&W.

Brown and black hair look pretty similar in B&W, more so if we're talking the primitive film stock Verrick is working with. And there were workarounds for how colors translated: like how chocolate syrup was used to simulate blood in B&W films, because it had the proper darkness and was cheap.

Maybe Ginger's hair isn't to help sell a sexy redhead, but to sell what will look to be a sexy brunette.

>>114205
Literally everyone in the Avatar universe is a natural brunette. Either she's a one-in-a-million oddball mutant or she dyed her hair red to make herself stand out from the crowd as an actor.

I guess she may have dyed her hair to be a trendsetter/be unique in real life, but chose red specifically instead of, say, green or yellow, because she would still have normal-looking hair in B&W film.

>>114301

Genghis Khan had red hair, supposedly. A few people use that as evidence that he was part Turk or some other Caucasian race, but his kids didn't inherit it at all, so it's possible he just had a freak genetic anomaly.

>>114302
well that is possible seeing they have found some red haired "giants" remains along some of the older trade roads in china. Heck Ginger might be a reference to that even.

>>114301
>Either she's a one-in-a-million oddball mutant or she dyed her hair red to make herself stand out from the crowd as an actor.
Maybe she's just Kyoshian? Suki was auburn, so I could see at least a few of the residents being redheaded as well. Or, at least, with a reddish enough shade to be called them in a world without actual redheads.

>>114302
>>114304
The Uyghers in "western china" STILL have a high amount of redheads, so Genghis khan having red hair wouldn't be surprising at all, the Tocharians were a people noted for their red and blonde hair in that region in the 6th to 8th centuries before the Uyghers absorbed them.
>>114313
Red hair really really varies in our world, so if suki's auburn hair sets a precedent for SOME form of red hair, ginger having hair that's THAT fucking red isn't ENTIRELY unbelievable.

>>114339
Uyghers are in a very weird place in the world because they don't consider themselves Chinese at all, but they're not quite Russian or Middle Eastern or anything else.

Having a Ugyher-inspired people wouldn't be super far-fetched for Avatar, but it would be pretty odd since it only loosely fits the Asian inspiration of the show.

>>114385
They really aren't? I'm pretty sure they view themselves as being in the "same group" as the rest of central asia: Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan etc. Although if anyone would look like Uyghers I'd actually expect it to be Air Nomads: one theory about the fall of the Uygher Khanate was there was a mass conversion to Manicheanism, which involves vegetarianism: a difficult diet to manage if you're a steppe nomad.

>>114385
They really aren't? I'm pretty sure they view themselves as being in the "same group" as the rest of central asia: Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan etc. Although if anyone would look like Uyghers I'd actually expect it to be Air Nomads: one theory about the fall of the Uygher Khanate was there was a mass conversion to Manicheanism, which involves vegetarianism: a difficult diet to manage if you're a steppe nomad.

>>114385
The Si Wong desert tribes were analogous to Turkic peoples, so it's not unprecedented. They also seemed to be partly inspired by North Africans and Arabs though, which was kind of strange for a universe based on East Asia.

>>114385
The Si Wong desert tribes were analogous to Turkic peoples, so it's not unprecedented. They also seemed to be partly inspired by North Africans and Arabs though, which was kind of strange for a universe based on East Asia.

>>114398
>>114399
Weren't the Sun Dancer's deliberately based upon Mesoamerica, and just so happened to luckily parallel some Southeast Asian civilizations? And the Foggy Swamp tribe don't seem to have any direct Asian counterparts, either.

So, truth be told, the Avatarverse is closer to "all the existing nations are inspired by Asian civilizations, but not everyone else is".

>>114399

I thought they were based on nomads from the Gobi desert, which would cover Mongolia and parts of China just fine.

>>114437

I've heard Southeast Asia's jungles, Vietnam specifically, used as a potential point of inspiration for the Foggy Swamp tribe, but frankly, a lot of stuff just has equivalents elsewhere.

Northern Water Tribe's canal city looks like Venice? Suzhou has canals, too. Ancient Earthbending WWE? China had the same crap, minus the superpowers.

>>114437
I thought the Foggy Swamp tribe were pretty clearly Vietnamese, at least from their names.

This is like that time when V For Vendetta came out and because of American egocentrism, everyone thought a story taking the Thatcher Administration to task was about George W Bush's administration.

>>114445
I agree with this.

>>114437

I think they were based on MesoAmerica, but did have some actual Indonesian reference thrown in. Something about the Sun Warrior chief's headpiece was at least similar to some early SE Asian headwear.

Ginger may be based on the actress Jane Russell.

>>114446
That's not exactly fair. First because an adaptation can take a work in a different direction, especially with movies where the screenwriter, director, producer and even actors all have influence, and second just because a work is ABOUT one thing doesn't mean you can't look at it from other perspectives. V for Vendetta can be about thatcher and still have things to say about bush.
>>114448
>>114445
>>114443
>>114399
So pretty much a lot of stuff in avatar isn't direct rips of earth cultures, and has influence from places other than just the most obvious one.