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112815 No. 112815
Confession /a/: I really don't hate Mako and I think had they not tried to shoehorn him into ending up with Korra during the last stretch of Book 1, he'd be a more well-liked character among the fanbase, even with his douchey moments in previous episodes. I think he can still be salvaged though
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>> No. 112820
before he got into a relationship he didn't even have any actual character he was the popular guy in the corner ignoring the protagonist, not a strong start for a tribute to begin with. i'm sure he can be redeemed in the hands of the right writer but i don't really care either way. he really feels like a side character more than a main character anyways.
>> No. 112822
Maybe if Bolin and Mako had been condensed into one person there would have been enough substance to make an actual character
>> No. 112836
I don't hate him either. I just find him annoying and hate how the narrative rides his dick.
>> No. 112837
Is there anything to his character to actually like? I guess he's hardworking, but I feel like that was kind of subverted as soon as he said that dating Asami "makes more sense" than dating Korra. And despite his supposed devotion to his brother, he seems quick to forget him and his feelings.

And that's it. I can't remember any other good qualities he was supposed to have.
>> No. 112838
>>112837

He was likable in the 3rd episode. I wish they'd used the love triangle time to flesh out his and Bolin's backstory instead. Mako's backstory as an orphan who had to raise and support his little brother while sacrificing his morals to work for the triads would make an interesting and sympathetic character. I just don't get why they bothered with the love triangle stuff when they could have gone with that instead. Of course, I feel that the whole triad plot was woefully underused and addressed in a pretty boring and superficial way.
>> No. 112839
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112839
>>112837

Mako isn't really a bad concept for a character:

>Orphan living on the streets
>Struggles to make a living for himself and his younger brother
>Had to grow up fast if he hoped to survive
>Tries to be the responsible and mature one of the two brothers
>Still is quite immature and knows so little about the world himself
>While he makes mistakes and can be inconsiderate, he isn't looking to hurt anybody on purpose.

The problem was that they took this decent character/concept and threw him in a show where he didn't have much to do with the plot except being there to sling fireballs and shoot lightning when they needed him to and to be a prize for the female lead. But I think that in the earlier episodes the way they presented Mako was a little better because they presented him in a way that felt like he was a real main character that had something to do with the story and whose character arc was actually going to play some role in the main conflict. Even when he was with Asami, for the first few episodes of this relationship, being with Asami was never really presented as the purpose of his character and it wasn't quite clear just yet when or if he'd ever get with Korra. The problem is that once you get to Out of the Past, they no longer try to even hide the fact that they want him to lock lips with Korra by the end and that point it becomes his only purpose for even being in the show. And on top of that they try to rush it, because they used up so much time already, and they rush it in a way that glosses over or ignores Mako's faults, making it look like he's suffering no real repercussions for his actions cause in the end he gets what he wants either way, regardless of how sorry or not sorry he is about the way he acted towards Asami. Even in earlier episodes where Mako was wrong, he suffered clear consequences for his actions and his apologies seemed to carry more weight to them.

Mako is not a bad character like some people think, he's a sad waste of a pretty good character. Bolin at least had the "luck" of being sidelined, so he's less hated and probably seen to have more potential. But I think brothers have potential if they were just given something important to do in the story.
>> No. 112841
>>112839
True, hopefully now that Mako's joined the Republic City police and Bolin has to lead the Fire Ferrets without Mako's or Korra's help we'll get some good stuff from these guys apart from their roles in Team Avatar 2.0.
>> No. 112842
I'm with you, OP.

He was likable in the first few episodes, but once the romantic plot got into fullswing, Mako's character took a turn for the worse. His concept is pretty good, and has plenty of potential, but as I do with the rest of the show, I feel that is was woefully underused, and that by the last stretch of Book 1 he served as little more than an extension of Korra.
>> No. 112843
i feel like the problem with mako was we barely got to know him before he was thrown into a situation where a teenage boy who grew up without the guidance of a parent (hell, even ones WITH good parents make these mistakes) very easily makes mistakes, even if he has good intentions. when i think about his character and his past and go back and rewatch the show, his actions really don't come off as aggravating as they were when i first watched. the problem with this, though, is that i (and a lot of others) didn't really pick up on how mako's past affected how he acts.

and in all honestly, i blame about half of it on bryke and half of it on the fandom -- because like i said, in retrospect how he acts makes a lot of sense when you think about his past. on the other hand, he's also pretty cold and distant and doesn't exactly sends out constant vibes of "i just want to protect the people i care about".
>> No. 112889
I hate Mako because it is our actions that define us, not our intentions. So no matter how sympathetic his background is or confused he was at the time, Mako was an asshole and no amount of excuses can change that.
>> No. 112895
>>112889
>it is our actions that define us, not our intentions
you know this argument kind of falls apart when put under certain circumstances.
>> No. 112898
>>112895
Not really. People always have a choice, shitty though those choices may be.
>> No. 112899
>>112895
Care to give any examples? Because I pretty much have to agree >>112889 a thousand percent. The real world doesn't give a dead rats dick about what you wanted you to do, it cares about what you actually do. Because what you actually do is what has real consequences and repercussions. Intentions are completely meaningless without action to back them up.
>> No. 112902
>>112898
>>112899
i should probably clarify i don't mean it falls apart specifically under mako's situation. i just feel like with how many people there are in the world with their own experiences and differing reactions it's dumb to say, "well, you're an asshole because you still did something stupid". not to say that they should be babied, but i find it ridiculous that people treat it as a universal constant.

but i think even with mako's situation applying it is iffy as fuck.
>> No. 112903
>>112901
>expecting anyone to take Cracked seriously
Well, that was one major fuck up on your behalf.

And a different anon here, but even so, I just feel the need to butt in and say something here - all actions are performed with some kind intent. You do A with the intent of achieving X. The two are intractably linked, and people are actually capable of looking beyond what has happened to see the underlying intention. For example, a fireman who failed trying to save lives can still have an influence even if they fail, because people were still able to recognize the intent behind their actions, even if their action had no actual repercussions in the physical world.

So yeah, I admit people often give a shit more about the actual things you did, than the things you intended to. But don't pretend that intentions mean nothing, because without something driving someone forward, they don't do anything in the first place.

Currently, what you're spouting here is some bizarre version of the perfectly valid 'Actions speak louder than words'.
>> No. 112904
>>112895
>>112899

Not to belabor the point or derail the thread, but you're still laboring under the false impression that your intentions mean fuck all other than what actions you take to express them. Then you could probably benefit from reading this.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/
>> No. 112905
Weird. I deleted and reposted that about five seconds after I first posted, but my computer got hung up and ended up showing up after all the posts responding to it. Just to clear up confusion, these posts...
>>112902
>>112903
are responding to this post.
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>> No. 112907
>>112904

This actually is a fantastic article, by the way.
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