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112191 No. 112191
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>> No. 116774
>>116771

His plot in book 2 relied on Asami doing pretty much nothing, Bolin becoming an absolute idiot and a caricature of himself, and Lin being incompetent. Almost all the conflict in it relied on no one listening to him or unfairly bullying him (the idiot cops Lin trusted). It could have pretty easily been reworked so that Mako could be insightful and clever (good character points) without making everyone else complete idiots in the meantime. They could have had Lin running an undercover op on Varrick and Mako's snooping messes it up but also gives her some important intel, or have the idiot cops instead be on Varrick's payroll and purposely blocking Mako from getting info to Lin which makes him desperate. Lin can still be stubborn and have bad channels of communication in the office, and Mako can be clever and good detective material without it all being eye-roll worthy. Keep Bolin as a little dim (but not ridiculously so) and having the fame go to his head and idk about Asami.

>>116772

Amon is a self-loathing bender who hates bending so much he made it his mission to debend everyone. Having him compliment any character on their bending and mention it's almost a shame to debend them is ridiculous, and it's definitely questionable when that character is the tribute character.

Mako's got an interesting backstory, and he does have good character traits to work with, but they seem to be trying way too hard to show us how great he is when that should just come naturally. I thought that short they released with Mako and Bolin was good, and I really liked him in that (and in the first 4 eps of book 1). I also enjoyed The Sting when it aired. The best part of the short was Mako being forced to do some morally questionable stuff to survive, but being pulled back by Bolin's sense of right and wrong. That's a great dynamic to work with, and I'd like to see more of that and get into their past with the triads. At this point, I don't know if they can fit that in with all the world-changing stuff going down.
>> No. 116775
>>116774
I'd point that Asami and Bolin not "doing anything" had little with them being shoved aside and made stupid so Mako could hog the spotlight and more to do with how they had no reason to believe him, because Varrick had personally helped them both out. He saved Asami's company, the only thing she had left of her family and he gave Bolin a career and purpose. They DID have an opportunity to focus on Asami after Mako was arrested which they sadly passed by, though.

As for Lin, I don't know myself. Mako did technically break protocol by barging in like that, but for some reason afterward he never tried to talk to her again or she didn't bring it back up. And as jerkish as those detectives were, they were on the force longer than Mako and Lin has probably seen dozens of other rookies like him who screwed up a lot.
>> No. 116776
>>116774

>loads /a/
>Awesome Avatar Fanart Thread!
>sees this hunk of shit called a post in a FANART THREAD

Welp.
>> No. 116777
>>116775
Lin being stupid has more to do with her, as the police chief, being railroaded into the Stubborn Bureaucratic Boss role that's a core element of this type of stock plot than trying to make Mako look good.
>> No. 116779
>>116772
Seriously, people are getting waaaaaaaaay too hung up on this one line.
>> No. 116786
>>116776

Wow so sorry I continued a discussion that was going on before I even joined in?
>> No. 116808
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Heh
>> No. 116809
>>116808
Okay, I am 95% sure this is an edit, but that is a really, good edit.
>> No. 116810
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>>116809
someone tweaked the center girls skin tone. expression and added the fire ferret
>> No. 116811
>>116810
I feel like Bolin might've gotten one or two changes too many that defeats the purpose of the joke for the joke but wow that Mako.
>> No. 116842
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>>116759
less funny version
>> No. 116843
>>116842
Ohhh Now I want to see the rewrite with Kill la Kill style Azula and her Mother replacing the Firelord. Enduring her mothers "affection" and then bam! Backstabbing and Secret Rebellion. Though be damned if I don't hear Blumenkranz Kill la Killキルラキル OS…youtube thumb when this shit starts up from now on.
>> No. 116848
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>>116843
Say what you will about Ragyo, but at least Satsuki could never complain about lack of attention
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>>116848
Azula in chains and Ursa fondling her, now that is a scene. Also this has been popping up a lot lately as a theme, what is the original?
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>>116857
If I remember correctly, it's based off some news report where a guy says being with someone you like in the snow gives a "special feeling" and the girl is hiding her face because they're not openly in a relationship. Led to all sorts of parodies after being tweeted.
>> No. 116870
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If you replaced Ursa's personality with Ragyo's, Azula would have to step up and become the hero.
Ozai would be dead or in hiding for daring to interfere with her plans and Zuko... Oh my god, Zuko. He'd be wrapped around her little finger.
>> No. 116872
>>116870
So would he take Nui's place? He gets scarred fucking around the same way Nui.
>> No. 116873
>>116870
>If you replaced Ursa's personality with Ragyo's

You'd have roughly the same character, just one less driven and molesty than the other. They both gave basically little to no shit's about their children.

>"No matter how things may seem to change, never forget who you are."
>...Because I sure as fuck will. As soon as I possibly can. Won't even think twice about it. Damn, can't wait to get some of that Ikem dick in me. Zuko who?

At least Ragyo doesn't put on a fucking act like she gives a shit about her kids when she really doesn't. Bitch is terrible but at least she's genuine.
>> No. 116874
>>116872
>Zuko turns jaunty and psycho
>Azula actively tries to isolate herself from her family because in contrast to Ursa, Ragyo shows an active interest in her that just creeps her out
>instead of life fibres, Ragyo is obsessed with spirits
>"Humans exist for the sake of spirits!"
>she purposefully gave herself to Ozai, so that she may bare children with a strong affinity to the Spiritworld
>when they were infants, she took both of them there and tried to make spirits bond with them, believing that a child may survive the encounter and come out stronger
>she goes along with Ozai's attempt at regicide, but stabs him in the back immediately afterwards
>instead of having the FN take over the world, she wants to combine both (similar to Unalaq but one step further)
>that's why she wants the Avatar so badly
>also she has devoted brown handmaid and surrounds herself with mystics and sages
There's a good fic idea in here. Maybe we should consider starting a thread.

>>116873
Kinda agree, though I think this manifests in opposite ways. Ursa booked it as soon as she could and never looked back, while Ragyo actively tries to mold her daughters into becoming little copies of her, since she's so in love with herself.
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>>116874
little crossover sketch
http://apexkiryuin.tumblr.com/post/80813644521/fire-lord-ragyo-how-do-i-design-these-things
>> No. 116918
>>116909
Quite Fascinated how the KLK and LoK has intersected
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>>116909
>> No. 116921
>>116920
Why are Mako and Bolin on the wrong sides of Korra?
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http://k-y-h-u.tumblr.com/post/80931535040/raavas-always-got-my-back

DAT BACK
DAT TAT
>> No. 116934
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>>116932
She really should have that as a tattoo, back or maybe arm like this one.
>> No. 116940
>>116934
Why? Would it symbolize she is the first of a new cycle?
>> No. 116943
That could be one reason I was thinking more about maybe showing a renewal with the connection to the Spirit of light and her connection. Similar to the Air bending Tats. Give the Avatar a symbol of office kinda.
>> No. 116945
>>116934
Took me a second to realize that's supposed to be Korra. People take some real liberties with her design.
>> No. 116951
>>116945
Yea, I thought it was an Asami response pic or something before I saw the comments.
>> No. 116954
>>116874
>And then Ursa rips her own heart out rather than letting Azula or Aang have the satisfaction of besting her.

That'd be pretty metal.

I'd support that this version of Ursa be an albino, like Ragyo. But no rainbow.
>> No. 116958
>>116954
I guess you could tie Ursa being descended from Avatar Roku to her love for the Spirits.
>> No. 116960
>>116958
Yeah, that was my thought as well.
She thinks very highly of her heritage and believes she is directly linked to the spiritworld because of it. In fact she'd be the one who'd come to Ozai with the proposal to knock her up to make some really powerful, spiritual benders.
But when he considers murdering their son to get the throne, their interests are diagonally opposed, so she disposes of him.

Also interesting parallel: In some Arthurian Tales (TS Elliot's The Once and Future King) Mordred is described as having albinism. So yeah, this has tradition with the evil offspring of shinning heroes.
>> No. 116961
>>116960
She keeps her body clothed and final conflict reveal that she's been doing that freaky spirit possession mutation stuff to herself. Gotta break out the blades that can cut spirits.
>> No. 116962
>>116961
Yeah, and in the flashbacks you see her walking around normally, but in the present she glides around, her movements inhumanly smooth.
>> No. 116963
Am getting a Kick out of how some want to praise KLK on /co/ but keep running into the problem that Korra hits many of the same character points as Ryuko did. Heaven forbid they actually start liking Korra.
>> No. 116964
>>116963
Liking her doesn't mean you have to start liking Korra.

I have no fondness for that character though, the secondary character were far superior.
>> No. 116965
>>116961
>>116962
God, imagine the confrontation where Ursa reveals her true form to Azula and the world, following her betrayal.
>What daughter dares raise her hand against her own mother?
Ursa smirks while she pulls the blade out of her gut. The wound closes up immediately.
>What mother abandons her children in the Spiritworld, pits them against each other and discards them like broken toys? You brought this on yourself!
Azula stands her ground, but she can't mask the shakiness in her voice. Ursa drops the dagger, offhandedly.
>I was simply trying to nurture your gift, my dear. But I see now that you will never live up to your true potential. Thus it falls to me alone, to fulfil this family's great legacy.
>Your legacy! The delusions of a madwoman!
Azula readies herself, blue fire at her fingertips. Ursa's smile becomes a mad slash of a grin.
>That is where you are mistaken! Feast your eyes, daughter.
She slips out of her robes revealing a body covered in pulsating markings of light.
>What have you-
Ursa closes the distance between them in an instant an lifts Azula up by the throat, with one claw-like hand.
>I have become enlightened.

Or something like that.
>> No. 116966
>>116964
Yea though topic they attempt of "KLK has a superior protagonist" in the threads that just shit talk Korra anyway and then get mad then its pointed out they are quite similar individuals is funny.

I kinda wish it had switched and stayed on Satsuki since her motivation and extent she was willing to go was crazy. Maybe Asami will pull that move. I mean with Varrick a criminal and on the lamb I wonder where all the controls to his business now go.

And then we would know why Asami had that "Just as planned" smile in that one still from Book 3.
>> No. 116967
>>116965
It would be all kinds of different colored spirits maybe even sport a similar rainbow effect, corrupting some ancient spirit bending technique to fuse them into different parts of her body.
>> No. 116968
>>116966
>its pointed out they are quite similar individuals is funny.

Not to get into that whole quagmire of a conversation, just because two characters are very similar doesn't mean one can't be written more or less poorly than the other. I could write out a very detailed character bio (history, personality, psychology, motivation... everything), hand it to two different writers and come away with a completely different feel for each one.
>> No. 116969
>>116968
Of course I know this as a writer that archetypes are akways a thing. Its just the amount of anger that comes from the comparison on /co/ is kinda funny sad. I find it interesting how both groups cross in fan art and outside of 4chan the mix is a bit more tolerant.
>> No. 116970
>>116967
Yeah, I was thinking off some sort of bioluminescent deep sea creature crossed with a woman.
The markings under her skin would pulse in different colours and according to her mood.
Also, while she was dressed conservatively like the firelady before, she'd spend most of her time naked after the reveal. Maybe wear a loose, flowing, transparent robe to make her seem even more like a jellyfish.

As for powers I think she should be incredibly durable and strong as well as have and almost instant healing factor. I wouldn't give her any form of bending besides energy though.
>> No. 116971
>>116970
Interesting idea being so much more Spirit than human she would no longer have a capacity for a "lesser" form of bending. I keep thinking something like that might actually come up since they've talked about the two new forms showing up after Korra has decided to leave the portals open.
>> No. 116997
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So, how 'bout them arts?

https://www.ukiyoeheroes.com/products-page/giclee/
>> No. 117066
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>> No. 117067
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More here: http://mslvt.deviantart.com/
>> No. 117137
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http://k-y-h-u.tumblr.com/post/84454217890/the-girls-should-ditch-the-boys-and-bond-over

Enjoy some tasteful nudity.
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http://happymascot.tumblr.com/post/84867363710/1-06-atla-corporate-au-where-instead-of-ruling

a stylish modern Azula.
>> No. 117204
>>116133
Really whoever did this made Asami fat.
>> No. 117205
>>116932
Is that tattoo supposed to represent Raava (forgive the misspelling)?
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