Black and White are two days away and the other one is in autosage. Let's get this shit started. Remember to spoiler when appropriate.
Gym leaders, Clint Eastwood, Iris is final leader, etc.
>>12700 Also Carrot Top. Also football players.
I still think the final evos are fake. On the fence about Luchaboar.
>>12704 It's not the designs that bother me as much as the typing. Pure Grass, pure Water, and another Fire/Fighting? Let this be a bad joke and nothing more.
If we go by what we can assume, this region shares a lot of gym types with Johto. Nearly the same order too. Normal Bug Flying Ice Dragon Man, I wanted a poison gym so badly.
>>12707 I heard Smugleaf was going to become a grass/flying, but I can remember neither the source, nor if Serebii confirmed.
>>12700 >Clint Eastwood fuck yes
>>12700 Beetle Badge Quake Badge Bolt Badge Jet Badge Icicle Badge Legend Badge We COULD have a water/ice in the samurai otter... I mean, he looks like a Norwhal.
Louie confirmed for Gym Leader.
Also, I already don't care about Team Plasma. When I thought N was working alone, or with a handful of accomplices, I was interested. That actually had the potential to be threatening. But no, one look at this new team leader and I just don't care. I've already had my fill.
>>12786 But Bones, PALADINS.
>>12788 Sorry, no, their boss is Cats.
>>12789 You know given the dialogue in the Japanese version CATS is probably the name of the organization and not that particular person.
>>12793 Anyone who knows the actual name of the bad guy from Zero Wing is officially more nerdy than anyone needs to be.
Oh man oh man. Please don't let Wotter's final evo be real, oh god pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease. It's so uglyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Serebii just updated with a load of new info
>>12806 LOOK AT THAT KUNG-FU MOTHERFUCKER I WANT HIM I WANT HIM TEN TIMES I WANT HIM TO BE MY WHOLE TEAM >Doctor Hal really likes fighting types
>Starter evos are real.
Ladies and gentlemen, ALL the Gym Leaders
>>12700>>12819 ooohwait So one picture we have has the jungle girl from the Anime and then I post this one that has fucking Whitebeard
>>12820 Well... Whitebeard-Trapjaw
>>12819 ...Is that Birdy!?
>starter evos are real However, I've never been happier to be a Grass loyalist. This makes up for Meganium at least.
>starter evos are real YES! GANONDORF AND I WILL CONQUER ALL OF ISSHU!
Dat Mustache
>>12819 Oh okay so apparently the 8th gym leader changes depending on the version of the game you play. Way to diversify, Game Freak.
Damn, I love the ground/dark alligator. The fighting type dinosaur too.... Can't believe I'm actually getting back into Pokemon.
>This gen
This is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen (Dragon/Ice legend). I mean, I know they need to make it look better for the third version, but seriously?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/989552-pokemon-black-version/56398506 Someone leaked the base stats and abilities for everyone. Oh god, I am bloody excited. Wonder what some of them do. Oh, and I am for sure making a Flying-type team.
http://www.pokexperto.net/index2.php?seccion=nds/blanco_negro/isshu_pokedex Fulldex got leaked
>>12827 >Gym Leader changes depending on which version game you play >Which version game you play >Black girl Gym Leader >White beard Gym Leader ....no way Japan.
>>12834 500 ERROR!
>>12836 If you have Chrome try that. I'll also be posting my favorites
>>12837
>>12838 Also I'm not going to post any pokemon that have already been seen.
mnehynot gonna download a whole new browser for one website.
>>12839 The Kamen Rider pokemon
>>12837 >Chrome ...Hmm...now that would be a good name for a game version...
>>12840 Good news it's on Serebii now too.
>>12843 Look at this guy, you know he evolves into a murder machine.
>>12844
>>12845
>>12846
>>12847 Check his guy's shades. He means business.
>>12846 This and another pair of pokemon also lug around building supplies as a weapon.
>>12848 I would ride on this dude's shoulder
>>12849 Well they evolve into each other. That dude is the final one. Also best Legendary right here. All hail Shockwave Bug
I am so elated with these designs.
FUCK YES BLACK AND WHITE YOU ARE THE GREATEST
Oh boy, this is the part where all major pokemon forums degrade into children spewing shit uncontrollably. This place didn't really get active either. brb sleeping for 2 weeks
And I went ahead and made my teams
>>12855 And of course I'm already thinking of at least two more teams.
>>12822 Oh god I hope so.
>>12847 This. This is mine. Bones claims it. It's mine. It was made for me.
http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml FOR THE LAZY WHO WANT TO SEE MORE OF THE NEWBIES
>Tons of new fighting types >Some robot like Pokemon >Reptiles left and right THIS GAME, THIS GAME WAS MADE FOR MY SOUL!
SO MANY CROCCIES Now if only we got a squiddy...
This gen.... this gen is fucking AWESOME
So, America has the best Pokemon. We're the best.
Have this.
Today has been a good day... Spring 2011 will be even better.
>>12867 It looks like a fakemon sheet. >mfw when these new pokemon
>>12869 Oh Jazz, you silly party pooper. Stop pooping on our party!
>Candle pokemon that evolves into a lantern pokemon that evolves into a chandelier pokemon
Also, this is my 5th gen team.
And not one evolution of an existing Pokemon. Wat.
>>12873 Hey, come on, There's no way Emonga is NOT a Pachirisu evolution, that shit is bananas.
>>12872 Fuck yeah, definitely getting these guys along with a few others. I'm especially pleased with all the unique typing they've been doing.
>>12874 It's true. There is nothing connecting this Dex to the previous gens. No babies, no new evolutions, nothing. Isshu is it's own beast so to speak.
>>12876 I refuse to believe that this thing didn't evolve from the electric squirrel we already have.
>>12874 nope.exe All families are totally separate. Good news everyone! There is not a single fully evolved pokemon this entire gen that has a base stat total less than 420. No "level 10 bugs," Luvdisks, or Unowns in sight.
AMERICA UNDER STANDS
>>12877 It almost seems like the "no evolutions" decree came later in development. Wouldn't surprise me. My ruling. Beats the pants off DPP, but there needs to be a damn letter writing campaign for a Farfetch'd evolution next time.
>>12878 it's called power creep
Screw being a trainer, I'm opening a spooky hotel.
>Personal rule: no more than 1 of every type in a team >Giant robot, giant sunglasses crocodile, giant steel mole Maybe I'll roll a die or something.
So hard to choose, so many awesome pokemon, I guess this would be good.
So... This is the new Gardevoir?
I'm debating whether Luchador Ganon or Aku Gorilla should be the team's Fire-type.
>>12885 If by 'the new Gardevoir' you mean 'lots of porn, all the porn', then yes.
>>12851 Genosect. Genocide+Insect Really? GENOCIDE INSECT is a viable pokemon name now? I though this was a game for kids.
>>12890 It could also be short for genotype. Wouldn't be the first time we got a Pokemon based off genetic makeup.
>The Grass Pokemon starter is pure grass. >The Water Pokemon starter is pure water. >The Fire Pokemon starter is fire/fighting. That's.... disappointing.
So, am I the only one who thinks that the grass monkey's evolution is the coolest fucking Pokemon? HE'S GIVING YOU A THUMBS UP LIKE, "YEAH, I'M GONNA RAPE YOUR TEAM". AND THAT POMPADOUR.
As I said I had two more teams in mind.
>>12895 MONKEY DU POMPADOUR!
So there's Gamera, King Gidorah, Mothra... Who am I missing?
Gonna start on my amazingly fabulous team.
>>12902 Does Tyranitar count as Godzilla?
>>12904 Maybe? I don't really want to say yes.
>>12902>>12904>>12905 YOU ARE ALL FOOLS OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER AS GIGAN WILL FUCK YOU!
>>12924 Eh, I feel like there's a better monster for him but I can't think of it. It's probably just some Ultraman monster I'm forgetting.
>>12931 With axe blades in his face, he looks like the giant monster from that episode of Dexter's Laboratory, "Last but not Beast".
>>12867 >archeopteryx pokemon YES YOU WILL BE MY FAVOURITE
>>12934 I believe someone already said that (its name is "Badaxtra").
>>12893 Nintendo has just plain run out of ideas.
Okay, so here are the new Pokemon that I think look awesome: Pendoraa Doreida Warubiaru Desukan Aakeosu Burunkeru Denchura Shibirudon Ononokusu Sazando Meloia None are quite as awesome as Octillery or Misdreavus...And it doesn't look like any old Pokemon are getting new evolutions, which bums me out
>>13002 What. How did so many people miss the fact that there would be no evos for old pokemon. Seriously, I've been raging around for maybe a week about how bullshit is was that Luvdisc didn't evolve into Mamanbo. It's extremely jarring, like talking to an anime fan that doesn't know that there is a Japanese version 2 story arcs ahead.
Or, to put it in visual format...
>>13017 I haven't been paying attention until two days ago. So I sort of missed the memo about no new evos.
Is this the first gen where you can actually battle competitively with your favorites, or is Smogon gonna find some cheap exploit like stealth rock?
>>13046 There will always be some pokes that come out on top, unless they all have the exact same stats and movesets. And even then, their type would probably affect their ranks.
>>13025 On the bright side, nothing related to the older generations means no wasting Pokedex space with new baby Pokemon of older species.
Awww shit.
>>13017 It has just occurred to me that "raging around" is not an expression that translates well to written communication and makes be sound a little dumb and careless. Oh well, time to find something else.
>>13058 oh boy I can't wait for more pedo-Cynthia even I'm not sure if I'm being sarcastic or not
>>12885 And now there's porn of it...
>>13063 FUUUUUCK! Why can't people just enjoy the cute monster girl Pokemon without taking things too far?
Got my team all selected! I don't know what to name blue karate dude, though.
>>13068 He looks like a broken-nosed Equius.
>>13068 Ryu or Jin Name his red compatriot Ken or Mugen, respectively
There's an entire evolutionary line based around hitting people with construction equipment.
Perhaps it makes me a giant faggot, but now that I've seen them... I like all of the new Pokemon. Literally, there isn't ONE that I don't like. Even Wotter3, I'm cool with it.
>>12885 Poke-Miku is Poke-Miku... I'm okay with this.
http://pokejungle.net/ Attack Info: * Hyper Beam and Giga Impact are purchasable TMs for $90,000. This exorbitant price is probably due to the reusability of TMs now * TM72: Volt Change (electric): special, switches out your pokemon after attacking * After obtaining the Jet Badge you will receive TM62 Acrobat * TM79 Ice Breath (ice): will always land a critical hit. Base Power: 40 * TM82 Dragon Tail (dragon): Base Power of 60 / Accuracy: 90%, will always strike last * Coil Up (poison): Raises attack, defense, and accuracy * Venom Shock (poison): Base Power: 65 / Accuracy 100% / Special / Base power doubles if you hit a poisoned opponent * Enemy Bind: Makes your accuracy 100% against an opponent for 4 turns * Evil Eye (ghost): Base Power: 50 / Accuracy 100% / Special / If opponent has status condition base power is raised * Wide Guard (rock): Protects your team from attacks that would hit all of your pokemon, will fail if used in succession * Fast Guard (fighting): Protects your team from priority moves (ie: quick attack), will fail if used in succession * You may buy TMs in Raimon City. These are $10,000: Frustration, Return, Thunder Wave, and Gyro Ball. These are $30,000: Light Screen, Reflect, and Safeguard Item Info: * New item: Pumice Stone (halves pokemon’s body weight) * Master Ball is given to you by Professor Araragi * Prevolution Stone (raises Def and Sp Def for unevolved pkmn only) * Aiming Mark (lets you hit opponents that are normally immune ie: poison vs steel) * Bicycle is obtainable in Raimon City (didn’t they say the bike WOULDN’T be making a return?!) * Confusion Mushroom: Held item that has a chance of confusing the opponent when Pokemon is attacked * Suimin Goggles: Raises speed and accuracy if held by a water pokemon, but all other times will be put to sleep * Flower Cologne: Held item that will attract opponent if Pokemon is attacked by opposite gender
>>13081 Lots of accuracy-based stuff here. Interesting.
>>13082 I suppose they realized that there was nothing to boost accuracy besides Acupressure.
>* Prevolution Stone (raises Def and Sp Def for unevolved pkmn only) n-no... I thought you were dead THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE
>>13085 UU doesn't count because UU sucks and if you play it youse a busta
>>13085 Happiny. Bam, problem solved.
This gen is filled with fucking amazing concepts, but goddamn if the sprites and designs aren't ugly as sin. It looks like one big fakemon spritesheet made real. There are some good designs yeah, but they're outnumbered 3 to 1. And goddamn them for Wotter3. Goddamn them to hell. Never has an evolutionary line dropped the ball so hard.
>>13072 I'm iffy with Dokkora. It looks like it's related to a certain abomination...
>>13087 That depends on whether unevolved means "pokemon that have not evolved," "pokemon that have not fully evolved," or "pokemon able to evolve which have not evolved." If it's the first or second we'll have to deal with Skarm or Chansey. It it's the third the item is useless except for maybe Gligar in UU.
>>13088 I think you should wait until official art or moving sprites to make that judgment. A few pokemon I disliked from the sprites turned out to look much better in PBR.
>>13088 I thought I was the only one who felt a little disgusted while looking at the chart. I appreciate a lot of the ideas, but the designs themselves are...;jas;ljr;l
GASP Apparently one of the old rumors, which also had the fact that there would be 156 pokemon, had something about a battle option called Fresh. Fresh apparently means that only pokemon caught or bred in B/W are allowed. If this is real, this would mean a couple of things: -Unavailable legends would not be usable until there are events (note: dream world is apparently going to hand them out, so this might not be a problem) -Any pokemon from an older gen would have to be bred before being usable, which would filter out event moves, tutors, and non-returning TMs (like, say, STEALTH ROCK). Also you'll have to re-train/breed/hack yadda yadda whatever. So, yes, no, or dealwithit.jpg?
>>13097 No one but the non-tourneyfags would use it, thus rendering the whole SR thing null, but I'm still very, very okay with this.
>>13097 Well, people were complaining about how wrecked the metagame is going to be. Wouldn't that segregate all the Gen V pokemon from their less stat-endowed counterparts from previous gens?
...huh. I really had high hopes for this gen for some reason, but I hate pretty much all of these. Oh well.
The guys at Shoddy picked a hell of a time to start updating their software. Smogon and all the simulation programmers are going to be hella busy these upcoming months.
>Platinum character Looker appears in Isshu Eeeeeee~
>>13093 Presumably it's so you have something really good to put on your sweeper in Little Cup.
I can't decide. I really can't. It was hard enough just trimming it down to ten.
Games officially released in Japan not a minute ago.
>>13113 And thus I spent the rest of my day F5ing the shit out of /tr/.
http://doujin-games88.blogspot.com/2010/09/nds-5213-pokemon-white-jpn-rom-download.html[/spoiler]
>>13115 Enjoy your no-EXP anti-piracy.
>>13118 I plan to. Thoroughly.
>>13119
>>13115 I'm off to do a Piratelocke run.
I'm sure everyone was clamoring for my opinion. I only bothered to mark the ones I don't like. I'm pretty fond of everything unmarked.
Using the Growlbro-Jazz method. Opinion of final form usually applies to whole line. Everything else unmarked is meh.
Red-haired guy looks like Dakim from Colosseum. Blondie next to him looks like one of the Battle Frontiers from Platinum. What the fuck is going on with Plasma Leader's head.
If you disagree with this chart then you have different opinions and taste than I do.
Hey shut up about opinions and lets talk about facts. Disregard the stats, that's just Serebii being a derp: http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/dreamworldabilities.shtml Notable pokemon: Unburnable Flareon gets Guts Seaking gets Lightnningrod
Hey maybe some of the fakemon designers are good at designing monsters, did you think of that?
>>13135 Allow me to add to that list. Ninetales with Drought Politoed with Drizzle Tyranitar with an ability that isn't Sand Stream Ambipom with Skill Link Blaziken with Speed Boost Gliscor with Poison Heal
>Blaziken with Speed Boost >Encouraging weather teams
>>13141 >My Infernape will never have Iron Fist.
>>13132 ...Actually, I don't remember Dakim's outfit being quite this terrifying while playing Colosseum.
>Seaking with Lightningrod
>>13132 Axel, Zexion, Demyx, what are you doing in Pokemon?
I'm not sure what to think. the pokemon seem to be majorly hit and miss with me. the ones I like I think are awesome, but the ones I dislike I think hardly look like pokemon at all... I think it's because B/W is supposed to be cut off. if these were just new 'mons to add to the bunch I wouldn't be so unsure, but since this is supposed to be all the 'mons for the storyline, it seems really strange. lots of humanoids and generally un-animal-looking things. I'm sure I'll get used to it.
>>13145 They changed lightningrod this gen. It now grants immunity to electric and raises the Sp. Attack of the pokemon when hit.
>>13160 Ohhh shiiiit. Marowak is gonna love that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YeErMOL2A This plays when your pokemon is low on health now.
>>13162 Way to make the beeping even more annoying, game freak. That's not even dramatic or suspenseful, it's like party music using the warning sound effect as the melody.
>>13163 I find it incredibly catchy and great compared to the annoying original beeps.
>>13163 At least it has a melody. As far as I'm concerned, it's a vast improvement over the old beeping out of sync with the music
>>13161 >Marowak >Special Attack?
>>13168 ...Oops, I read 'Special Attack' as 'Speed.' My bad.
>>13162 Wow finally. I've always said that more games should rip off how Skies of Arcadia had different music depending on how well you're doing instead of annoying SFX that nobody I know likes.
>>13135 >Beedrill with Sniper >HNNNNNG
>>13172 Should've been technician
>>non-Uber users of Drought and Drizzle
Mothra is a bug/fire type?? FUCKING FUCK YES I AM A HAPPY RAPTOR
Ha, the legendary beasts get the Eeveeon abilities.
I think we can pretty much confirm the 3rd game will be Pokemon Grey.
>>13185 When discussing black and white moralities, gray areas are always going to pop up.
I just discovered something. Half of the new Pokemon look like they come from nature, while the other half look man-made, city-like if you please. ...Basically. The new Pokemon designs follow the design of the game in that there's a split between Nature and City.
Oh hell yes I can have my bug team :D
My opinions changed minimally.
I'm gonna keep one in my room. He's just going to sit on my nightstand. I will injure myself horribly trying to pet him.
>>13192 that actually makes me like this bunch a lot more. consider my eyes opened.
>>13195 >Finally an Ant pokemon WHY DIDN'T I NOTICE THIS YET?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGwRXa9koE my face when this is the champion theme battle
While the starter and legendary dream abilities excite me, I realize most of those guys are probably going to be event only or something. Still, Water Absorb Suicune might be cool.
The animation is cooool. Even if they are all just reusing the Platinum sprites as a basis.
oh god I want to see all the animated sprites. Front and back.
I AM CLEVER
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml > "I have just received notification from Nintendo regarding the Pokemon Black and White games. They have requested that I no longer post images about the games claiming that they violate intellectual property." Well... Anyone willing to share their opinions on this matter?
>>13222 How about "That's some ol' bullshit, why would they even do that"?
>>13224 Because people will get overhyped and be unable to wait and import the games causing Nintendo not to make money later.
>>13225 I had every intention of buying both Black AND White anyway.
>>13222>>13222 >>13224 >>13225 >>13226 >>13225 Nabbed this from /vp/... It hints that the Cease-and-Desist letters that were sent to Serebii and, strangely, Pokebeach were fake...
I'm getting worried. No one's said anything about new Pokeballs. What if.. there aren't any?
>mfw Gamefreak runs of ideas.
>>13234 They're really weird about old Pokemon sprites. Some are all new, some are Platinum and some are HG/SS. How did they decide which ones they were going to use?
>>13216 Okay, this one is pretty terrible, look at that tail. GameFreak, you are better then this.
>>12885 And here is Meloia's Step Forme!
>>13234 Whoa, what happened to the pigeon? His evolutions look different
>>13245 Maybe it's a gender thing.
>>13246 Indeed it is, the males have fruitier plumage, just like in real life.
This is a travesty. There are some shiny pokemon that look worse than the normal ones. However, I can't think of one that actually TAKES AWAY WHAT MADE THE ORIGINAL GOOD. My theory is that shiny crocs are rare because they were shunned and/or beaten by their significantly more awesome counterparts. Oh well at least Desukan looks good, and Wargle is so beautiful that I cannot avert my eyes.
>>13211 A Visorak reference? Here?
>>13253 It's more likely than you think.
ugh the idle animations are so cool. I'm such a fag for them because to me it's sort of like the characters are bobbing along with the music and that makes me even more pumped.
Holy shit! Shiny Emboar is fucking awesome! I like him even better than Smugsnake! Why is that not his normal coloration?
>slowking's backsprite
So uh, what about this guy? You can only evolve magnezone in DPP, and trading to BW is of course one way. Is there some area with magnetic fields in BW or are they just assuming with typical Game Freak compassion that you can just buy DPP if you want the TWO pokemon that evolve that way?
>>13266 CANNOT UNSEE
Show me Ninjask, I want to see how fasts its wings beat.
>>13278 Sorry, I don't have it. I pulled these off /vp/ earlier today and only got a few of them.
>>13263 "Okay! Now to look at people's asses for a while."
If it's spring in-game when this comes out, I have to remember to catch a Shikijika and name it "Tulong" and rename it "Diddenreed" when it evolves.
>>13236 What, you were expecting them to draw more than one frame for the tail??
>>13216 He looks like he's humping something...
But more importantly, where's the lesbian porn? If Gen 4 was any indication, we'll be getting enough this round to fill at least 5 artbooks.
>>13320 Especially since Cynthia is making a comeback.
>>13321 White and Cynthia in one game presumably means some sort of gay singularity will be created.
>>12851 Do we have any more info on this guy? Or how about some art? Because he looks like a murder machine and I want him.
>>13323 He was modified by Team Plasma. Also his name is Dennis.
Fuck the bike I wanna ride the Afrobull
>>13323 Genosekuto: Genosect: Geno Sect: Genocide Insect Bug/steel type Paleozoic Pokémon HP: 71 Attack: 120 Defense: 95 Sp. Attack: 120 Sp. Defense: 95 Speed: 99 Black Entry - Genosect (649): 300,000,000 years ago it was feared as the ultimate hunter. Team Plasma modified it. White Entry - Genosect (649): An ancient Bug Pokemon that was altered by Team Plasma. The canons on its back were made more powerful. We're also almost completely sure it has 5 formes and a few very weird new attacks (unfortunately all Serebii has is the general description of these attacks from in game): Techno Buster: It shoots a Photon Blaster at the opponent. The type of the move varies depending on the held Cassette. Simple Beam: It sends a puzzling idea to the opponent. The ability of opponents who receive this attack becomes Simple. Oh, and his battle theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFgFoomoI40
Also, while I'm posting themes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sHRwEgZPsk Victini is such a little fucker, but his theme is so good. This gen as a whole, actually, is going to have really terrific music.
>>13343 If he is event only I'm going to find a way to hurt Nintendo. GOD DAMN HE'S AWESOME.
>>13343 So we finally have another Mewtwo, and this time he looks like an abomination!
I can't get over how adorable Belle or whatever her name is with the green hat.
>>13349 Yeah I love me some Belle too. And Pantslizard is my best bro
>>13350
>>13350 I thought he couldn't get any more awesome. I was wrong.
>>13345 Yeah, he's one of three event only legendaries this generation.
>>13355 Why.... Why would you do this, Nintendo?
>>13356 So he can star in a movie?
He could star in a movie anyway! They could release a special one for a movie. It's not fair.
>>13355 FUCK YOU NINTENDO, FUCK YOU.
>>13343 DENNIS DEEEEENNNNISSSS DEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNIIIIIIISSSSSS Also, just got the pirate version of White, gonna Nuzlocke through it. New game, foreign language, slow speed, and hard mode. Goddamn.
>>13355
>>12850 Big Guy >>12851 Black Manta
Give it a few weeks and the people with Action Replays will be passing out event-only Pokemon left and right. Everyone will get a Dennis of their own.
The Internet really seems to like the new Electric leader. My only problem with her is she doesn't seem to be wearing a military uniform, like all the Electric leaders before her.
>>13370 Unless Isshu happens to have VERY strange military uniform regulations.
>>13370 Isshu's in America. The Pokewar never came to the homefront.
Okay, has anyone else noticed how anal Nintendo of America is being about Black and White? First they didn't give the English games a release date outside of Spring of 2011. I'm not super pissed about this or anything but COME ON. The game is already out in fucking Japan, give us a month at least. Then they started attacking English fan sites that were posting information and images. This pissed me off. In fact, I'm willing to bet they would've tried to have the info taken down if it wasn't for the fact that you legally can't pull information down from anywhere. Pictures, yes. Information, no. And now they're sweeping through Youtube and having all the music and videos pulled down. I think I'm actually really pissed off about that one. That was some really good music. Now, legally they have the right to do this, yes. But it's still pissing me off. They are being complete douche bags this generation. What the fucking hell? >>13357 Along with Meloetta. Which I'm sure you'll realize very quickly is going to be the worst movie ever made for Pokemon. Think about it. Idol Pokemon. "Hurry guys! We gotta get Meloetta to the concert on time or else she'll disappoint all her fans!" Then they succeed and dance to shitty pop music for the final 10 minutes of the movie.
>>13370 She looks like Cynthia's little sister. Awesome.
>>13373 Sounds like they don't want anything spoiled for the English release. Kinda silly in this day and age.
>>13370 I love Electric Gaga, that is until she kicked my ass.
>>13375 Yeah, it's like they wanted those dream world abilities, event Pokemon and all the like to remain secret.
>>13373 I'm pretty sure its more that her songs are magic or something (maybe they're needed to keep Dennis in a coma or else he wakes up and rapes everything.) For some reason, she can't sing so Dennis comes to wreak havoc and the heroes have to help.
Putting it to a vote.
>>13384 He wants to end the Pokemon Trainer system, that's villain territory.
>>13385 Or at the very least, Antagonist.
>>13384 Antagonist/Rival. The guy was manipulated by Gaycheese ever since he was young, isolating him with having only Pokemon as friends, giving N a warped view that the trainer system must go down, when in fact Pokemon and Humans can work together Gaycheese's actual goal is to trick N to drive away the humans so that he can control all Pokemon in the end.
>>13135 OK, this is sort of eyebrow raising: There's a new ability called (according to serebii's translation) "perversity" which reverses changes to stats. It can be used by a Dream World Shuckle, Spinda, and the Tsutarja line. Tsutarja can learn Leaf Storm. So unless the ability has some restrictions they haven't found out yet that make it completely useless (Anticipate, Feint), it will have an attack with base power of 140, STAB, and will increase their Special Attack by two levels every time they use it.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_moves_that_changed_in_attack_power Thrash and Petal Dance rejoin Outrage in the same move/different type club. Interestingly Bullet Seed's buff makes it's theoretical minimum damage it's old theoretical maximum.
>>13489 /tr/ and smogon tested it, Leaf Storm does raise it's Sp.Attack.
>>13495 Condascendaconda confirmed for tippy-top OU tier.
>>13496 You would think, but it's stats and pool move still limit it from being a viable attacker. It is a great support/wall though.
Harvest lets you keep using your berries as many times as you want. INFINITE FIRST STRIKE CUSTAP BERRIES??
>>13499 It's going to move Eggscutor and Tropicus up several tiers.
Also the games sold 2,637,285 copies in the first two days.
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/09/22/comicsalliance-vs-the-156-new-pokemon-the-best-worst-and-weir/ >something that looks like a cross between Ra's al-Ghul, David Bowie and a Snake... This is how I`m describing this thing forever
>>13491 Do they have a list for accuracy too, because it seems like every new game fucks with Hypnosis' accuracy for some reason...
>>13507 I dunno. What I do remember is that Doom Desire now has 100% accuracy.
Also Rotom's Ghost type now changes to match its forms.
>>13498 75 Special Attack and 113 Speed are too low for a STAB Leaf Storm which just keeps getting stronger to be powerful? >>13499 Exactly what I was thinking. >>13500 Especially since they both learn, again, Leaf Storm, and Critical Hits negate your negative stat changes. >>13507 According to serebii, Hypnosis's accuracy is still 60 like it's been since Platinum. I appreciate the indirectly nerfing of Stealth Rock (it can only be learned by level up, mostly by rock Pokemon with low speed) but everyone is just going to keep using it by transfer.
>>13513 I thought criticals just negated your opponent's defense boosts?
>>13516 No, it decides on modified or unmodified for each stat depending on whichever does the most damage. In Gen I it would always do unmodified, so it would be possible for a critical hit to do less damage than a regular one.
>>13516 It negates any of your Attack debuffs and your opponent's defence buffs, while keeping any of your Attack buffs and your opponent's defence debuffs. Basically that weak move that always criticals is going to be a wall breaking machine. Especially if a Sniper learns it.
>>13524 Moves, actually: Mountain Storm (Fighting) and Ice Breath (Ice obviously). Granted, the fighting one is only learned by one Pokemon and they're otherwise identical. Unfortunately, none of the ones that can learn either can have Sniper as their ability, even if they're from the Dream World.
>>13527 I'll call that fortunate.
Biggest Question: Kamitsure or Fuuro?
>>13533 Why choose when you don't have to? Fuuro all the way.
>>13533 Kamitsure
I present to you Exhibit A for Furou being better than Kamitsure. God. Damn. It's beautiful.
>>13533 I choose Aloe. I prefer older women
>>13571 Then you should understand that the new Professor and Cynthia>All.
>>13571 ...same.
>>13504 I was torn on who my first starter was going to be but now I'm for sure taking Bowie Snake.
>>13504 Goddamn he's my favorite of these starters. Unfortunately, I'm probably going to choose Piglit when the game comes out in the US, just because I want to get a Dreamworld Smugleaf with that awesome ability it's supposed to have. Using it as my starter for my Nuzlocke of the hack, though.
>>13498 Fast, decent defenses, and can use an attack that's devastating in it's own right AND is the equivalent of using Nasty Plot at the same time. I think he'll be pretty high up there.
>>13611 Plus I'm pretty sure Choice Scarf still exists.
>>13612 Yeah, sure. I'm pretty sure items like Life Orb and Leftovers exist too. Just sayin', don't knock it till you try it. It has potential to be a really powerful player.
>>13612 It can use a choice scarf too, unless Perversity effects (which would be even better because then it could hold an iron ball to times its speed by 2 instead of 1.5 without penalty). With that much power from that one move, it barely matters that it has no other non-Grass special damaging moves besides Hyper Beam, Wring Out, Sing A Round, Twister, and Hidden Power.
>>13620 The only thing that could hope to force it out is maybe a specially defensive Heatran.
>>13613 >Just sayin', don't knock it till you try it. It has potential to be a really powerful player. I'm pretty sure that's what the post you responded to was saying.
So. Who else is fucking PUMPED at Ditto's new ability, Eccentric? FUCK YEAH DITTO IS SUDDENLY NOT USELESS ANYMORE.
This is it btw.
>>13628 I haven't played Pokemon in ages but that just sounds like Transform to me.
>>13632 Yes, but RIGHT off the bat. as in, you toss out Ditto and all your opponent ever sees is that you tossed out the same pokemon as him. It's a bluff tactic mainly, or a decent counter if your running a pokemon with moves that could devistate it's own type.
>>13633 No no. You toss out your Ditto and then it Transforms automatically into the other Pokemon, gaining its exact stats and moves. Meaning. If your ditto has like a Choice Scarf on it...it'll be the other Pokemon, except faster. THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DISCOVER WHAT KIND OF TEAM THE OPPONENT IS RUNNING AND HOW TO FUCK IT OVER. IT'S -GREAT-.
>>13634 ... Nice aim jazzy pants.
