Black and White are two days away and the other one is in autosage. Let's get this shit started. Remember to spoiler when appropriate.
>>13370 Isshu's in America. The Pokewar never came to the homefront.
Okay, has anyone else noticed how anal Nintendo of America is being about Black and White? First they didn't give the English games a release date outside of Spring of 2011. I'm not super pissed about this or anything but COME ON. The game is already out in fucking Japan, give us a month at least. Then they started attacking English fan sites that were posting information and images. This pissed me off. In fact, I'm willing to bet they would've tried to have the info taken down if it wasn't for the fact that you legally can't pull information down from anywhere. Pictures, yes. Information, no. And now they're sweeping through Youtube and having all the music and videos pulled down. I think I'm actually really pissed off about that one. That was some really good music. Now, legally they have the right to do this, yes. But it's still pissing me off. They are being complete douche bags this generation. What the fucking hell? >>13357 Along with Meloetta. Which I'm sure you'll realize very quickly is going to be the worst movie ever made for Pokemon. Think about it. Idol Pokemon. "Hurry guys! We gotta get Meloetta to the concert on time or else she'll disappoint all her fans!" Then they succeed and dance to shitty pop music for the final 10 minutes of the movie.
>>13370 She looks like Cynthia's little sister. Awesome.
>>13373 Sounds like they don't want anything spoiled for the English release. Kinda silly in this day and age.
>>13370 I love Electric Gaga, that is until she kicked my ass.
>>13375 Yeah, it's like they wanted those dream world abilities, event Pokemon and all the like to remain secret.
>>13373 I'm pretty sure its more that her songs are magic or something (maybe they're needed to keep Dennis in a coma or else he wakes up and rapes everything.) For some reason, she can't sing so Dennis comes to wreak havoc and the heroes have to help.
Putting it to a vote.
>>13384 He wants to end the Pokemon Trainer system, that's villain territory.
>>13385 Or at the very least, Antagonist.
>>13384 Antagonist/Rival. The guy was manipulated by Gaycheese ever since he was young, isolating him with having only Pokemon as friends, giving N a warped view that the trainer system must go down, when in fact Pokemon and Humans can work together Gaycheese's actual goal is to trick N to drive away the humans so that he can control all Pokemon in the end.
>>13135 OK, this is sort of eyebrow raising: There's a new ability called (according to serebii's translation) "perversity" which reverses changes to stats. It can be used by a Dream World Shuckle, Spinda, and the Tsutarja line. Tsutarja can learn Leaf Storm. So unless the ability has some restrictions they haven't found out yet that make it completely useless (Anticipate, Feint), it will have an attack with base power of 140, STAB, and will increase their Special Attack by two levels every time they use it.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_moves_that_changed_in_attack_power Thrash and Petal Dance rejoin Outrage in the same move/different type club. Interestingly Bullet Seed's buff makes it's theoretical minimum damage it's old theoretical maximum.
>>13489 /tr/ and smogon tested it, Leaf Storm does raise it's Sp.Attack.
>>13495 Condascendaconda confirmed for tippy-top OU tier.
>>13496 You would think, but it's stats and pool move still limit it from being a viable attacker. It is a great support/wall though.
Harvest lets you keep using your berries as many times as you want. INFINITE FIRST STRIKE CUSTAP BERRIES??
>>13499 It's going to move Eggscutor and Tropicus up several tiers.
Also the games sold 2,637,285 copies in the first two days.
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/09/22/comicsalliance-vs-the-156-new-pokemon-the-best-worst-and-weir/ >something that looks like a cross between Ra's al-Ghul, David Bowie and a Snake... This is how I`m describing this thing forever
>>13491 Do they have a list for accuracy too, because it seems like every new game fucks with Hypnosis' accuracy for some reason...
>>13507 I dunno. What I do remember is that Doom Desire now has 100% accuracy.
Also Rotom's Ghost type now changes to match its forms.
>>13498 75 Special Attack and 113 Speed are too low for a STAB Leaf Storm which just keeps getting stronger to be powerful? >>13499 Exactly what I was thinking. >>13500 Especially since they both learn, again, Leaf Storm, and Critical Hits negate your negative stat changes. >>13507 According to serebii, Hypnosis's accuracy is still 60 like it's been since Platinum. I appreciate the indirectly nerfing of Stealth Rock (it can only be learned by level up, mostly by rock Pokemon with low speed) but everyone is just going to keep using it by transfer.
>>13513 I thought criticals just negated your opponent's defense boosts?
>>13516 No, it decides on modified or unmodified for each stat depending on whichever does the most damage. In Gen I it would always do unmodified, so it would be possible for a critical hit to do less damage than a regular one.
>>13516 It negates any of your Attack debuffs and your opponent's defence buffs, while keeping any of your Attack buffs and your opponent's defence debuffs. Basically that weak move that always criticals is going to be a wall breaking machine. Especially if a Sniper learns it.
>>13524 Moves, actually: Mountain Storm (Fighting) and Ice Breath (Ice obviously). Granted, the fighting one is only learned by one Pokemon and they're otherwise identical. Unfortunately, none of the ones that can learn either can have Sniper as their ability, even if they're from the Dream World.
>>13527 I'll call that fortunate.
Biggest Question: Kamitsure or Fuuro?
>>13533 Why choose when you don't have to? Fuuro all the way.
>>13533 Kamitsure
I present to you Exhibit A for Furou being better than Kamitsure. God. Damn. It's beautiful.
>>13533 I choose Aloe. I prefer older women
>>13571 Then you should understand that the new Professor and Cynthia>All.
>>13571 ...same.
>>13504 I was torn on who my first starter was going to be but now I'm for sure taking Bowie Snake.
>>13504 Goddamn he's my favorite of these starters. Unfortunately, I'm probably going to choose Piglit when the game comes out in the US, just because I want to get a Dreamworld Smugleaf with that awesome ability it's supposed to have. Using it as my starter for my Nuzlocke of the hack, though.
>>13498 Fast, decent defenses, and can use an attack that's devastating in it's own right AND is the equivalent of using Nasty Plot at the same time. I think he'll be pretty high up there.
>>13611 Plus I'm pretty sure Choice Scarf still exists.
>>13612 Yeah, sure. I'm pretty sure items like Life Orb and Leftovers exist too. Just sayin', don't knock it till you try it. It has potential to be a really powerful player.
>>13612 It can use a choice scarf too, unless Perversity effects (which would be even better because then it could hold an iron ball to times its speed by 2 instead of 1.5 without penalty). With that much power from that one move, it barely matters that it has no other non-Grass special damaging moves besides Hyper Beam, Wring Out, Sing A Round, Twister, and Hidden Power.
>>13620 The only thing that could hope to force it out is maybe a specially defensive Heatran.
>>13613 >Just sayin', don't knock it till you try it. It has potential to be a really powerful player. I'm pretty sure that's what the post you responded to was saying.
So. Who else is fucking PUMPED at Ditto's new ability, Eccentric? FUCK YEAH DITTO IS SUDDENLY NOT USELESS ANYMORE.
This is it btw.
>>13628 I haven't played Pokemon in ages but that just sounds like Transform to me.
>>13632 Yes, but RIGHT off the bat. as in, you toss out Ditto and all your opponent ever sees is that you tossed out the same pokemon as him. It's a bluff tactic mainly, or a decent counter if your running a pokemon with moves that could devistate it's own type.
>>13633 No no. You toss out your Ditto and then it Transforms automatically into the other Pokemon, gaining its exact stats and moves. Meaning. If your ditto has like a Choice Scarf on it...it'll be the other Pokemon, except faster. THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DISCOVER WHAT KIND OF TEAM THE OPPONENT IS RUNNING AND HOW TO FUCK IT OVER. IT'S -GREAT-.
>>13634 ... Nice aim jazzy pants.
