Official brainstorm thread for the medieval lesbians project, if you guys are still around. :) I like having this here, makes it much easier to keep track of.
Reading over my first sentence, I'm reminded that I'm terrible at conveying my ideas through words. Anyway, I just overlaid the image atop this handy graph. I love the look of it all, but figured you might want to bring the pirate line and ninja line together. Which might be best with some tilting instead of really moving either element all that much (the arrow's position is great, afterall).
>>29007 You're right. I'd thought about it after drawing it, but for some reason, didn't think much on it. Probably because I drew it at 4 in the morning. Lovely graph, by the way. Also, I actually had a very specific intent with the paneling of this page: I wanted to be a little more claustrophobic with them, make quicker shots of each scene. Rather than do a hell of a lot of close-ups, the angles of the panels allowed me to kind of push things along. I guess that last panel opens up from left to right could sort of be like a sigh of relief as things calm down. I'll make the necessary fixes and see if I can get started on inking tonight.
The new page: http://pics.livejournal.com/rampagingwalter/pic/0007x0zy Also, I noticed a mess up from the second where I had forgotten to color over something and it was bugging me so I went ahead and fixed it: http://pics.livejournal.com/rampagingwalter/pic/0007yqxy
>>29091 New page is awesome! Except for the inside of the captain's mouth on panel 3 and maybe his tongue on panel 5, and the bow on panel 7. I almost worry that it's too dark in panel 8, but I'll let you and Anderjak make that call. But it's badass to see, good job!
I might be a bad person for this... But this is exactly what I when I love something. The make silly things with it, not the... other thing.
Yeah, there are definitely a couple of things glossed over in the coloring. However, the page is just SO DAMN GOOD. And Eli basically did what I was hoping would happen on that last panel. It IS dark, though, and maybe it could use some kind of brighter value somewhere, maybe in the face and the foreground hand, to make the panel pop. Still, they're very minor things in an otherwise fantastic piece.
>>29095>>29099 OH GOD i meant to fix those before upload fff sorry, let me fix it real quick
Fixed the mouthes and added some more lighter colors to the bottom three panels. If you want more, just let me know! http://pics.livejournal.com/rampagingwalter/pic/0007ze3h
It looks fabulous!
And here's one websafe...
>>29105 ... and the other.
Casual observer here. Just wanted to say that I love all of you for doing this. I didn't think this would actually go through at first, but I'm really impressed with how well you guys are doing this. >>29106 >>29102 Also had an urge to mention that I love how the assassin came out in this. For some reason he really stands out to me.
>>29109 Thank you very much c:
>>14355 Looking at this, I realized the pacing is again mega super crazy fast! I am right this second doing an updated layout, which will turn the conversation with the Captain and King into 2, perhaps 3 pages. I'll have it in as soon as possible, tonight if I can. I feel fine with the lead in to the squire though.
>>29144 As I've said before: No reason to consolidate. The pace should be what's best for the story, not what's more convenient for anyone drawing it. The only problem I'll have is making two to three pages of dialog visually interesting, but I've been doing fairly well so far, so it'll just be another challenge.
Okay, LET'S ROCK! p1 and 2- Captain is talking about taking down the bandits (whom he is sure are behind the attack), kicking ass and taking names p3-King asks all the soldiers to leave. p4 and p5 are silent, King is raising from his chair in p5 as the door shuts. p1-K:How is your son's training coming along? p2-C:Very well, technically, but still undisciplined and ra K: Good enough! p3- C:Good enough? For what, might I ask? K:For protecting the most valuable part of my kingdom, of course! p4- K:I got lucky with how things turned out. I could have died in an instant, and then she'd have no one left. Both her parents together in the beyond. p5- note: the idea I have here is the sunset is coming through the windows, and the light is adding a somber mood and filtering past them. The contrast should be pretty high between the warm light and the cool shadow, but not too dark as their expressions are very important. Both are obviously introspective.
p1- K: I won't have this picture burned like the one that hung before it. C: Aye, m'lord. p2- Then it's decided! Your son will guard my dear daughter! p3- Are you certain? p4- But of course, old friend! Why, of all our squires, your son is the only one she might not feel uncomfortable around! C: Very well, I'll make arrangements immediatly! Obviously tweak dialog to fit better with the feel, just keep the basic feel that these guys are total buddies. First chance to really see how lighthearted the king can be, but still bringing in that solemn side from the gravestone. I wish I didn't have work tomorrow, but I do feel I got a good amount done. I feel pretty fired up though I'm still working on my technique and maintaining my pace. Still, I'm very happy with how these turned out, and am eager to get more done!
>>29146 >>29147 These're pretty damn good. I can't think of anything to improve the pacing, honestly, and I enjoy the dialog. Aside from very minor tweaks, this may go relatively unchanged.
I just wanted to bump this thread to tell you guys how amazingly cool I think this project is! I love it so much and I hope you all take it very far because I just love it!
I like the momentum this projects picking up at the moment. Not to make this a mindless bump but "moar pages plz"!
The project I was working on got derailed nastily to the point it won't be done. A whole lot of work with no return this summer! Which is the chief reason I haven't finished the inking on page 4. But that's over with, I'll tackle the rest of the inking today. >>29347>>29350 Thank you guys so much. I'm fairly certain I speak for all of us when I say it means the world to us.
>>29385 Well, you got my contact info so if there is anything I can do to help you salvage your other project just ask. Not that I even know what type of project it is or what it's about, but I know how frustrating that can be. I need to find one of my layouts or redraw a bit, since I have some revisions to the later pages. Nothing that will effect the next several pages though.
>>29389 The meat of it: I've been working on a five-minute animated short which was meant to be worked on by a team at my university. They were on a different project first, and I was supposed to take any team members who split off when their work was done. Thing is, seven weeks into a twelve week production period, they only just started serious animation, so I had to cut my project completely and do a different one- to two-minute project much smaller in scale. There's some other outlets I have for the project, including a studio which is opening up in Mexico, but I have to go through some legal business before anything gets started, IF it gets started. It's a clusterfuck, but at least I have a whole bunch of storyboards and character designs and scripts ready to go whenever.
>>29390 >including a studio which is opening up in Mexico Make it Monterrey and you've got yourself an intern.
>>29391 Hey, if it actually works out... Though, it's not really within my control. Someone else is getting the group together and figuring out all the international stuff, how it's actually going to go down. They've got big plans, though, so who knows? They'll definitely need some hires as soon as the doors open.
Well, sorry that I don't have any real experience with that sorta thing to help you with, but I wish you best of luck with it. And I'll love to see how it all turns out.
Here's the inks. Let me know if there's anything missing. Also, Eli, for panel 3 with the King, I didn't exactly know how to handle the background, that sort of electric "conflict" line which I drew in the background of the sketch. If you could figure out how to handle it, give it a crack, otherwise I'm gonna poke at it while I'm working on the layouts for the next few pages.
>>29453 Alright, I'll get started on it and mess around with that third panel
how the fuck is this co related
>>29456 Well, /co/ created it. And it's a comic. Therefore...
>>29456 /coc/ stopped being about /co/ a long time ago. Nowadays it's simply a repository of ideas for the creative. Not necessarily a bad thing
>>29457 Correct answer in everyway, as I believe creating a comic is about as /co/ related as anything can be. Also, if not for this place, I'd never have found such perfect partners for the project.
http://pics.livejournal.com/rampagingwalter/pic/0008b5eg Really happy with how this page turned out. As for panel 3, I couldn't really come up with anything. The widescreen look is only a placeholder, unless you guys actually dig it.
>>29493 The page as a whole looks fantastic. I'm adoring the way you handled the lighting, and especially that swipe of the sword. As for panel 3, yeah, I couldn't come up with a better idea for it. I think the idea I had for the sketch would work best, so either I ink that or you color it in with the sketch layer as a temporary overlay. Also, I think you're actually getting significantly better at this. Either that, or I'm just continually impressed by your consistently great work.
Okay, the last set of layouts I did was very rushed at the time, mostly cause I wanted to get right to that visual idea with the background close up color thingy. But here, revised and improved, is my real pass at that layout, so you can just go ahead and burn that other version! page Some talk about bandits and messenger birds... I'll think of dialog later. p3: talk ends with mentioning the princess, and the knight saying to the captain "Sir, speaking of the princess..." p4: captain "..." maybe some noises from Squire and buddy playing around. p5: Captain (off panel): Son! page p1: (off panel) Ow! (along with appropriate sound effect) p2: S: Yes, father? p3: Cap: Where is the princess? Squire: Well, she's right by... over with... Oh, DAMN! p4: Everyone! Mount up and fan out! Break into teams of two an Cap: Belay that, at ease. (do knights say "belay that"? Or is that, like, something you only say on a boat?) p5: Ya know, you're hard to stay mad at when you lose your cool like that. It's the main thing you get from your mother! Squire: But, father, the princess! Captain: Walk with me, son.
>>29505 Thank you! I'm starting to get really comfortable with coloring these pages, which I think is effecting their overall look. For panel 3, would it be too much to ask to have you ink it? It would make it infinitely easier.
>>29514 Will do.
Hope this looks alright. Also did some very minor touch-ups around the page, nothing that requires re-coloring.
http://pics.livejournal.com/rampagingwalter/pic/0008dxr3
>>29527 And uploaded to the dA! Looks fantastic.
>>29529 Gotta say: that is an extremely badass knight. Chopped that arrow in half.
>>29535 Purely accidental! He wanted to block it, but got overzealous. If he were to tell it, however, he'd gladly say his sword was guided fair and true to split the offending arrow in twain as the sun bore down favorably upon his skill. [Everyone else there knows it was total bullshit, however.]
Any progress on the next page? It's been a little quiet for the last week. Also, did anyone actually decide on a historic period to set this in or was it just decided to set it in miscellanious medieval times. Just to chirp in on that, you could consider the dark ages, since there were alot of kings knocking about then with they're own kingdoms, or one of the English Barons War's, since you've have alot of turmoil to fit the story in. Oh and keep up the good work
>>29678 My summer semester is wrapping up, and I'm going to be away on vacation, so hopefully I'll be able to do some new pages sometime within the next week. I'd like to have a page sketched and inked by Sunday. As for a specific time period, it looks like we're going for general "medieval times." No specific era, as far as I'm aware.
>>29686 I'm gonna be leaving for a week trip to Vegas on Monday, so if anything pops up in that time, I won't be able to work on it til Saturday.
>>29687 I'll be sure to get started on it as soon as I can, then.
And here I thought I'd be doctor updates with all my layout posting, but a darn internet problem totally delayed me! Well, here are the next few layouts! So we continue right off from before (as I said, I'm focusing on scenes lasting longer and having as natural a transition as I can make). page p1 - S: Were you trying to catch us a dinner, M'lady? P: Oh! No! I mean, that is I didn't think... p2 - S: I jest, Princess! We've more then enough supplies that any cute animals you find won't need to meet such a fate! P: I'm glad, though a bit embarrassed that I'm so unaccustomed to your jesting. p3: Oh... yeah, I get a bit carried away sometimes. My deepest apologies for being distracted earlier. P: It is no worry, Squire. I am just extra unaccustomed to rowdy play, I hope I wasn't a bother by wandering off. page p1- knight in the distance announces that it's time to head out. p2 - S: Well, let us be off. P: Alright. p3 - S: M'lady. p4 - P: Thank you. p5 - knight: Your steed, M'lady. p6 - knight: Apologies, I forgot your step, I'll go fetch it. S: Ah, there is no need for that!
Okay, on the previous layout, the full shot of them sitting on the log is probably something we can use later as a wallpaper or to somehow promote the comic (besides just making images for that purpose). page p1: S: Allow me to be your step! p2: P: I-I couldn't possibly do that! S: Nonsense, M'lady! For one who holds chivalry in their hearts, it is both a duty and a honor to serve a lady in such a way. (p3 is silent, or P: ..., which ever you like better) p4 - A-alright/O-okay (whichever is voted to be cuter). p5 is silent, but needs special mention. I originally drew a smile, since I didn't want her to seem sad by being stepped on, but then it felt like she was too smug, or at the very worst it could be seen as fetishy. I settled on a subtle look of revenance, as Squire is honestly happy to perform this duty, but her earlier scolding keeps her from being too full of herself. p6 - S: There, that wasn't so bad, now was it? P: I suppose. p7 - S: Shall we depart? P: Y-yes. page p2 - What is that there? p3 - (maybe make it clearer that it's a tower) That's a fort left over fro, eh? (she notices the bit of rubble falling off the tower) p4 - S: Father! C: Spread out. (p5 is silent) p6 - P: What is it? S: One moment, princess!
>>29691>>29690 Love these layouts. Also I vote for A-Alright. Sounds adorable
>>29694 thank you, though I just realize I forgot a page! This one goes before >>29690 I'll try to think of the dialog in detail later, but basically the Captain scolds Squire and teaches her that her duty to the princess is the most important thing for her. I thought I had uploaded it, but looking back it seems I forgot.
