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135618 No. 135618
ITT /34/ Artists you used to like but don't anymore

Who are they /pco/?

Let us know why they don't appeal to you anymore (fetishes, strictly ponies, not improving, etc.). And try to be civil.

I'll start with King-Cheetah (or whatever he's calling himself these days). I liked his work because he had this cartoony style that was very sexy. Breasts, hips, face, I liked it all. But then he kept doing the same poses and never really did more than his sketched pin-ups. In fact, I think he's gotten worse, or at least lazier. Not to mention his male anatomy was pretty bad. I still enjoy his Hey Arnold pics (even if he is a Lila x Arnold shipper) and the Alfred the Hedgehog stuff was good, too.

But it was all the same.

Not to mention he can be pretty bitchy. He gets some his Hey Arnold pics deleted off Deviantart and he deletes his whole gallery. In fact, he's done that quite a few times (even his FA account is wiped nearly clean and he's cleared out a lot of his Storm-Artists gallery).

What about you guys?
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>> No. 137465
>>137464

I think the biggest issue is him actually completing his work.
>> No. 137509
>>136159

Bullshit, I am an artist there and I most certainly didn't get brown-nosed for my art nor is critique ban-able. If your just gonna put someones art down then yeah you get the fucking banhammer. But if you post critique and actually help you are fine.

BTW just so you know, I'm not just a person hiding behind anonymity, My wwoec name is DBZNoob. I personally enjoy being on that forum. It's by no means the best place ever, but it certainly isn't what you make it out to be.
>> No. 137530
>>137509
And yet we can clearly see just how assmad your circlejerk forum got about a thread of opinions on a completely different site. If you weren't so insecure then you wouldn't have to care that some random, anonymous people don't like your art.

But your so use to the hugbox that when someone huwt yor fweelings you had to:
1. Make a thread about it
2. Come over here and fuss some more

Like, you're actually making things worse by coming here all mad
>> No. 137531
>>137509
>nor is critique ban-able

surely you jest...
>> No. 137564
>>137530
this is why we can't have nice things. both sides acting like assholes here.
>> No. 137568
I think WWOEC is oversensitive when it comes to critiquing their native artists, which makes sense in a way I guess, don't want to scare them off, but to be quite honest, it is hard to get decent crit on toon-porn sites. Your best bet is to throw it on paheal and see what people say there. Sure, they like some shitty art and sometimes ignore quality works, but at least you are more likely to hear both sides than the ass-pats or idle trolling that you get from some other sites.
>> No. 137667
>>137530

And you wonder why they think that way when, we see posts like yours...

Regardless, I do come here because I enjoy this place too. And I didn't come here mad. You took the use of the word "Bullshit" and figured I was raging around fuming at my keyboard. I am not.

Not to mention I have posted here before, I have posted on paheal, and I've posted on other sites. I don't care if you think my work sucks I draw because I want to, I color because I want to, and I line-art because I want to.

Anyways, You can keep bitching about WWOEC for all the fucks I give, but I'm getting back on thread.

Personally I can see the Zimmerman effect happening with LegoMan,s expressions and such, but at least this guy still has some variety.
>> No. 137711
>>137667
Jesus, you're coming here like a child "defending" your internet clubhouse because someone said some mean things about it.

Acting like just proves all the shit people say about your forum. Something damaged your hugbox, so you have to fix it.

You could have been an adult and ignored it. Or even a good person at listened to the other posters that offered reasonable criticism. But no.

You're so sensitive and easy to bother. You should have ignored me, but you just can't. Grow the fuck and realize that your forum doesn't need a white knight.
>> No. 137719
>>137711
Would you pretentious fuckers shut up and post some porn? God, you're worse than the WWOEC fuckers with your self-congratulation.
>> No. 137723
Yeah, this is going in circles.

WWOEC has good stuff and bad stuff. And so does all chan boards for that matter.
>> No. 137736
WWOEC = Da hugbox, right?
>> No. 137748
/pco/ is the biggest hugbox
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>>135674

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4566825/

Well it looks like they'll be at it again. I honestly hope that they'll have better pics to offer, because look at all the fucks given on that journal so far.
>> No. 138290
>>135618
dont forget the stiffing people on orders/payment

he often (ie. pretty much always) gives a "free sketch" with orders of sketches/image packs he sells, when he (often) needs money he also just sells quick sketch comissions

he also OFTEN delays actually doing the sketches, then "loses" them, then forgets about them, then refuses to acknowledge they ever existed

basically you pay 10-20$ for a sketch that already existed, everyone has seen, and was put online inked by him, then never get the bonus he offers you
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138303
I used to be quite fond of the duo known as Antelon. They started out with a lot of Mass Effect pictures, and occasionally made pics from other franchises. Over the last few months, though, their focused has shifted entirely on ponies and humanised ponies.
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138339
gonna have to agree with Legoman, his latest work is just weird. Just look at this one, he is starting to pander to his fanboys who like inhumane bodies with retarded proportions.
>> No. 138573
>>138339
he's not pandering to anyone, he drew those all on his own.
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138576
>>138573
you should check out his live stream some time. Also, look at this fucking leg, i get that Chun Li has long legs, but what the fuck
>> No. 138627
>>135618

I used to like his older style. You're right, he's gotten quite a bit lazier, all his stuff looks like he slapped play-doh tits on one of those dolls with the bendy rubber arms that are made of pipe cleaners.

It's really obvious he reduced his style down to its barest and tooniest elements to crank it out faster, and it lost all its appeal to me.
>> No. 138646
>>138576
I was watching his stream when he drew those. Drawing Chun-li was entirely his decision. Nobody bullied him into doing it as you seem to imply. He likes to draw women with curves, he always has. Clearly you are following the wrong artist.
>> No. 138652
Sure, legoman isn't perfect, but I'll be damned if he isn't among the top skilled artists of this kind of thing. When you go on paheal and whatnot and see some of the crap that gets praised like it is porno-gold, railing on legoman... for whatever it is exactly that he's getting crap for just seems weak to be honest.
>> No. 138659
I kinda hate it when not-bad artists go all eschergirls on anatomy and their style is flanderized as it devolves into its lowest common denominator.
Y'know kinda like Mogudan, but it happens to more Hentai Foundry or WWOEC people than I can remember now. Maybe it has something to do with NSFW being inherently kitsch but what do I know, I am no artist.
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This isn't an artist I don't like anymore, I still love his stuff. No-Ink, yeah he started off doing pony 34 but some he made is some of the finest pony 34. The only thing I can really point out is that he just sketches mostly now.
But when he goes full out, he goes full out. His line work can be godly.
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>>137007

He's a lost cause, except to the eyes of the easily amused. He has nothing "surprising" to show & his humor's gotten old YEARS ago.

Plus, him wanting criticism to see how he could improve? Looks like that clearly went to waste; had he had been with neutral artists rather than his closest friends, someone would have had the spine to point out just how bad he is compared to the others that contributed to that "funraiser" (not that many of them were that good to begin with; the only silver lining was that they didn't ask for a ridiculous amount of cash).

BTW, any progress on >>135750 's uncensoring? It's nearly been a year and he's probably done giving a damn/laughing it up like a common popfur on the inside about this.
>> No. 139576
Garabatoz

but only because he nukes all his art and disappears at least once a year
>> No. 139967
might as well add this:
whentai.com
Try getting your favorite character in the request polls. Chances are the majority will go to characters you already saw more than a dozen times on other sites like paheal.
>> No. 139995
>>139967
seriously, the people will everything they can to make their vote gets on top.
>> No. 151919
fsd
>> No. 155766
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155766
>Artist I don't like anymore
100% Jay Naylor. He's been getting really creepy with his content...Xration creepy. The guy has some serious issues he needs addressed.

>Artists I like
DLT. Specifically for their work on Maddie Fenton. Got me into the whole Milf genre.

Pic Related.
>> No. 155774
My favorites at the moment are Warren Blakely and João Vicente
>> No. 155780
Apostle.

Or is mentioning him redundant?
>> No. 155794
I see artist going bitchy and emotional all the time. I don't like their art less because of that, I know they are artists and emotional.

...but I pity them.

When they remove their stuff, when they go all emotional and discharge their rage, and frustrations over the fans, when they mistreat their fans. When they do all this they are harming themselves and not the "trolls", "haters" or whatever they think are making their lives miserable.

They don't see that all visibility is good for them. That everything are advertisement so they can make money via commissions. They aren't making charity when they post their art for "free" this is the showcase of their work for potential commissioners.

So every time I see things like this happen I feel sad because an artist I like is sinking themselves. They are hurting their business and they don't even realize that they have a business.
>> No. 155802
>>155794

The world would be a much better place if people weren't so soft skinned
>> No. 155805
>>155794
As an artist I PROMISE when that happens, we don't intend to hurt anyone but ourselves.
Self-Sabotage is another part of depression.
>> No. 155808
>>155794
Yeah, you are being logical. And it make sense. Though, I think as has been mentioned a lot of it is inner hatred. Most probably don't care about idiot trolls, they care more about people who they do consider to be fans. I think most delete things or go on destruction sprees as a result of irritation with fans not doing this or that, or doing this and that for some other artist but not for them, mixed with some genuine desire for self-sabotage. I guess it is a sort of "you'll miss me when I'm gone, then you'll wish you commented on my work and not that other guy's" mentality mixed with a desire to see what they've worked to build burn, just because they can. It is all dumb and childish, but for some, posting things that they've worked on for hours to be critiqued, ignored, or loved by random people on the internet can be a stressful endeavor, mixed with plenty of highs and crushing lows.

I would imagine that it doesn't help that there is a good chance that a majority of toon-porn artists aren't exactly the popular types with active social lives outside of the internet.
>> No. 155820
>>155805
But what makes me sad is that the artist is destroying itself.

>>155808
I have seen an artist taking stuff down as "punishment" due to insufficient donations like if people were obliged to give money. By the tone I could see very well that this artist was in depression.

I know that every artist is a bit crazy so I just get away and hope for a recover.
>> No. 155821
>>155820
In those cases, yeah staying away is probably the best bet, or trying to be nice and asking them how they are doing or whatever. Getting mad or going into despair of PLZ PUT THE PIC BACK UP doesn't help anything.
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>>135674

Nearly a year later and he still censors his stuff unnecessarily. What, is he self-conscious about his smut again, or does he still think he's a clever prankster?

...Actually, given the current comments on his pics, his mindless followers are as bad as him for advocating it.
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>>155856

If I had the skills, I would take this thumbnail and edit the original picture to get rid of his pointless censors. Shame he had to DNP himself on a few sites since people hated his censors. Sensitive.
>> No. 155893
>>136048
I once did him a favor, and he promised he'd do an art commission for me for doing so.

Never did it.
>> No. 155940
Yknow, regarding the whole "Artist Are Naturally Depressed" thing...

Depression is normally (re: most always) linked and related to one's own vision of themselves and the role they believe themselves to be in.
IE: I am An Artist.
or: I am a Runner.

When said role is not met or met without any success, it comes with somewhat of a crisis regarding one's own esteem and belief in one's role.

IE: I am not successful as An Artist.
or: I am a quadraplegic, I can no longer be a runner.

In the case of many online artists, most do not really go beyond "Online Artist" status, and are below personal expectations of success or role fulfilling.
>> No. 155952
>Depression is normally (re: most always) linked and related to one's own vision of themselves

No it's not, psychology and personal history has few to do with most depression, it's a chemical problem in the brain first. Traumatic event leading to a depression like you state are a large minority.
>> No. 155953
Legoman. I feel like he's using the same body type for every commission related thing he does now. There was something a bit more natural about his bodies even a half a year ago, but now it's all big asses and tits with stockings for almost any character he draws.

Despite most people complaining, I didn't have a problem with how he draws his faces, but now they're getting too weird as well, It's like his style is becoming a parody of itself.
>> No. 155963
>>155794
Trolls only really bother the thin-skinned. In a lot of cases, the biggest problems IS the "fans", specifically the annoying "gimme gimme" kids and the dudes who just follow you around, blatantly sucking your dick in hopes of getting a request or free commission. Those guys are just the worst.

Not every artist's goal or sole motivator is doing commission work, and when money isn't involved you're left with a lot less incentive to take people's shit.

>>155952
Yeah, I struggled with depression for well over a decade before I ever considered drawing for the interwebs. It came along with puberty and then never left, like a really shitty mutant power. Art is just something that tends to attract the broken, I guess.

Of course, I never had any public hissy fits nor deleted fucking everything, so I dunno. I just slipped away once I got bored with putting in all the hours.
>> No. 155980
>>155963
>Not every artist's goal or sole motivator is doing commission work, and when money isn't involved you're left with a lot less incentive to take people's shit.

Yeah, but many artists who trow hissy fits and delete their stuff also complains about how life is hard, how they have little money and how people aren't donating money.

I have no money, all I have is this stupid hen that produces golden eggs. And worst of all is that the eggs are too hard to eat.
>> No. 155999
>>155953
i too, have noticed this as well. i'm also hoping he notices this as well. i'd hate to see him become generic and stagnant. also quick off topic question: do he still record his streams and upload them anymore? been quite a long time since i've seen any downloads from him.
>> No. 156001
>>155952
Chemical problems are linked with Clinical Depression.
That's not the one I was talking about.
>> No. 156079
>>155980

I have a minimum wage job :D
>> No. 156105
>>156079
Minimum wage can be a reasonably good amount of money depending where you live in.

In US the minimum wage per hour is $7.25
In Sao Paulo Brazil, one of the most expensive cities to live in the world, more expensive than any city in US the minimum wage is $2.11 and don't get me started with Luanda.
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