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This seems like a good idea, maybe later when the hype dies off it could be expanded to a general spoiler thread?

>>34405
Err for multiple things? Wouldn't really work. (Picture if someone wants to talk about SPIDERMAN spoilers here, and someone else wants to talk about BRAVE spoilers, but neither has seen the other movie and plans to?)

(I will now abandon this thread until I see the movie, and will not see your response to this till then)

So how 'bout them guys what got shot in Colorado?

yeah, i just got back from the movie and... well everything i had to say about it has been pushed from my brain by that.

jesus christ, what the actual fuck

Yeah, she's a pretty fucked sitch.

>>34406
Okillydoakily.

A rough first act, but, once Bane and Batman have their first confrontation, it REALLY picks up, and holy shit does it ever! The last 5 minutes had me crying. TEARS.

I probably wont be able to see it for a while.

What a completely fucked up situation.

spoil me please

Crying Michael Caine fucking destroyed me no lie.
>Selina fucking Kyle
I doubted Hathaway but she had me as soon as she pretended to break down when the cops were storming the bar.
>Batman's first reappearance during the chase scene
>Dat Johnathon Crane cameo
>The cops marching on Bane at the courthouse
>TALIA FUCKING AL GHOUL UP IN DIS BITCH
I'd basically describe it as what happens when Knightfall and No Man's Land get together and make a beautiful, if somewhat clunky baby, with influence from the Dark Knight Returns. My only real issues would be the general lack of Batman, to be expected considering the source material, Batman voice still sounding like throat cancer, Bane sounding like he's doing a really poor Sean Connery impression, and that every bit of dialogue in the movie is either expositional or trying way too damn hard to be deep. But overall I loved it, and it's pretty much a perfect way to end Nolan's inconsistent tenure on the series.

Took way too long to pick up. Nolan really needs an editor to fix his pacing issues, because every fucking movie of his I've seen goes on for way too long or has a section that just SLOGS.
I fucking loved the climactic twist, because I was previously fuming at the idea of Bane being Al Ghul's son. As soon as Talia came out with HE IS NOT THE CHILD OF RA'S AL GHUL, I was like, "AAWWWW SHIT HERE WE GO"
The ending was really fucking stupid, though. Batman should have died, and as soon as the name "Robin" came up, I groaned harder than I thought possible.

I think aside from 60's Batman and Batman & Robin, I always got the impression Robin was pretty badass.

And this movie just cemented my belief that Alfred and Gordon are some of the best non-superhero characters in superhero comics.

I just got back, and off the top of my head cannot think of any problems I had aside of not being able to understand Bane sometimes and the laughable idea of cops marching in a giant column against enemies armed with tanks and assault rifles.

At first I was really disappointed with Bane's origin, but when the twist came along I was so relieved the movie became amazing.

And Ann Hathaway was hot.

>>34439
Bane's voice was my big issue too. I could not understand a damn thing he said at least 50% of the time. I mentioned to my friend that Bane needed subtitles. Other than that and some minor nitpicks, Bane was what I expected of him and that was great.

I felt that the whole Harvey Dent thing was greatly exaggerated, but whatever I can deal with that. Batman's supporting cast was great; Caine, Oldman, Freeman, and Hathaway were really enjoyable.
Now, as for "Robin", excellent performance, and I separate him as I want to address that the name really couldn't be worked in that well otherwise. Would I have preferred hearing the name Dick Grayson or one of the others, like Jason or Tim? Yeah, but the Robin name would make less sense in this light. Think of it this way, if it were ever decided, there's some little bit of something for a Nightwing movie, but it's unlikely.

Overall, I really liked the movie, though not as much as its predecessor, but that's being unfair as that movie was phenomenal. This one is a damn good watch, which while a bit rough around the edges is not too much so.

>>34444
screw all of that. how much of a mindfuck would it have been if his name was Terrence?

There really are days where you just can't get rid of a bomb.

at first i had reservations against Bane's "English" voice, but it grew on me as the film played. i guess a Spanish accent sounds horrible through a respirator

my other hang up about the film was why did Bruce sleep with Talia? or hand implied sex anyways. is she good looking? sure, but there was like no romantic relationship between them before that that i know about as shown in the film. the only real reason i can think of Bruce sexing her is as part of the deal to not go public with the reactor

Ann was surprising hot in her suit or her stunt double was anyway. really, whenever Ann grin or smiled she looked like a shark to me. predators are sexy though so its cool

finally, Joseph saying his name is Robin was indeed groan worth. also, he killed two people. with a gun. hello Red Hood movie

>>34428
>I'd basically describe it as what happens when Knightfall and No Man's Land get together and make a beautiful, if somewhat clunky baby, with influence from the Dark Knight Returns.

Also the ending of the Iron Giant

Loved it. It was great on its own right. It may not be better than the Dark Knight, but in a way it was as good. The movie felt bigger, the threats were real and about, I liked that, it was a good finish to the series.

I liked what they did with Bane, his voice was a bit odd and I thought he had a Yoda speak. I don't know about understanding him is an issue since we had subtitles going on.

Catwoman was good, she had me at the police busting in scene, and also that impressive leg work. I did feel that her costume felt tacked on; not a single word was said on those cat goggles so it stayed an odd prop to the end.

Loved Robin, loved his performance, loved how able he was. The ending gave a nice closure in the passing of the cape.

Some nitpicks cause everybody loves nitpicks: The "war" scene maybe served its purpose as a dramatic tool, but it was utterly ridiculous otherwise.
I made a quick connection between Talia's scar and the bird drawings everywhere. I'm not that familiar with the character so I was unsure whether she pops up a deus ex machina or a backstab, though as the climax approached it became obvious.

Thats not really a nitpick but there weren't many action scenes, but I was okay with it because the movie is good at what it does. Also, there was a severe lack of Batman in the Batman film.

Anyways, the movie gave me a great appetite: I read very little of Batman. I need more great stories. This film is based on Knightfall and No Man's Land I hear, and the previous one is based on the Killing joke.
So I guess this will be a good place to start.

>>34455
Actually, the previous film is more based on The Long Halloween, with like a throw-away line from Killing Joke. But read both, anyways as they're both fantastic.

>>34453
While Batman is not one for flings, I feel like Talia was attractive in many ways to him. She was not an ordinary woman. Talia would be down as a way to manipulate him, so her aggression is not surprising. Bruce would allow it to continue because she's fucking hot, but also because he's deciding to trust her, BUT ALSO because Alfred just left and he emotionally fucked up.

Also, thematically, Bruce penetrated her---and then later she penetrates him (with a knife).

>>34461
classy

On the acting: I didn't pick out a single "awful" performance out of the whole cast. Michael Caine deserves special credit for one of the most emotional performances in the entire trilogy, and Anne Hathaway deserves some apologies for people who thought Nolan made a mistake in casting her as Selina Kyle.

On the characters themselves: I loved the development of Robin Blake; he earned the right to take up the mantle of The Batman. Neither Selina or Miranda/Talia received enough characterization for my taste (Nolan has a knack for writing flat female characters in this trilogy), but in Miranda's case, I can understand why Nolan kept her character a mystery until "the reveal". Bane came off exactly as he should -- an intelligent powerhouse -- but he seemed to lack the conviction to back up his whole "liberation" ideal...

On the story: ...and that caused the story to flatten out after Bane tore the walls down from Blackgate Prison. Nolan had the opportunity to explore real "class warfare" and Gotham's reaction to the truth about Harvey Dent, but he glossed over both opportunities. Looking back, the overall plotline worked as a finale to the trilogy, but Nolan compressed it too much and ignored its true potential as a reflection of the "us vs. them/class warfare" society that America has become in the past few years.

On the technical merits: The whole film looked beautiful, even when you could barely see anything; Nolan knows his cinematography. The soundtrack didn't have any standout moments, but it did an excellent job of setting the mood for each scene. (Something you'll want to note: no music played during the first fight between Batman and Bane.) I have only one issue with the technical side of the film, and it probably sounds familiar at this point: I couldn't understand Bane half of the time. (I'd bet the DVD/BD release will sound better than my theater's shitty speaker system, though.)

On the overall package: While not without its flaws and rough edges, The Dark Knight Rises serves as a satisfying conclusion to the trilogy. I feel sorry for the person who has to follow Nolan's films when WB does the inevitable Batman reboot in a few years.

>>34466

>Anne Hathaway deserves some apologies from people

Whoops.

>>34466
I think the reason Bane had little conviction for the whole "liberation" angle, is because the liberation was obviously a farce. A distraction. You think he actually gave a shit about class warfare? He didn't.

The story should not have touched on class warfare anymore than it did. It got enough attention for something that was NOT a central theme. The central themes of the story were hope and redemption.

Additionally, I noticed a standout piece of the soundtrack when Batman is finally scaling the pit. It starts off with The Rise chant, and slowly swells into the Dark knight theme. That shit was awesome, and if you missed it... oh man! When you see that shit on DVD look for it again.

Otherwise you have fair points.

http://blip.tv/bum-reviews/doug-walker-reviews-dark-knight-rises-6267735

>>34449
I would pay money dollars for an edit of the poster with that.

>>34473
Damn thing left off my image.

>>34466
I don't think anyone was bad. I just thought Robin's Role in it was terrible. I understand that he was needed to pass on the Cape but half his role was people just giving him things or knowing things that really made him feel out of place. At least to me.

Also, Catwoman got away with killing people and so did Robin. Batman also killed Talia and her Driver. What the fuck? Like that's not the batman I know. I mean I guess it emphasises the situation but it felt very unbatman-like to have the protagonists just kill people in Robin's Case unarmed people without having reprocussions.

>>34468

>The story should not have touched on class warfare anymore than it did. It got enough attention for something that was NOT a central theme. The central themes of the story were hope and redemption.

I'll agree with you on that, but I still think the movie could have explored that sort of thing further without distracting from the main storyline.

>>34476

>Catwoman got away with killing people

I didn't see her kill anyone but Bane, and given the situation she killed him in, I doubt anyone would argue with a "self-defense" justification.

>Batman also killed Talia and her Driver.

How did he kill them, pray tell? I didn't notice him outright shooting anyone or snapping anyone's neck or forcing Talia to stay in the truck.

>[Robin killed] unarmed people without having reprocussions

He shot two of Bane's men when they tried to assault him, and that happened after he figured out what Bane had done with the cement. (Call it a poor escalation of force, sure, but no way Robin didn't kill in self-defense.) Those deaths clearly affected Robin, however, which counts as a repercussion.

>take a nuanced character torn between her genuine love for Bruce and her duty/legacy
>make her a monodimensional evil bitch for the sake of a bondesque twist
>no one even cares beacause you're Christ Nolan

http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2012/07/22/so-we-understand-that-you-have-problems-with-the-new-batman-movie/

>>34485
Stopped reading after point #2

>As others have noted often enough: it is not terribly hard to figure out Batman’s identity if you are not willfully blind. I mean, fuck, Egghead managed to do it (almost) during the 60s TV series. And he was Egghead.
Yeah, JGL's mary sue character is just smarter than everybody else, see? Next time we'll have some guy in Man Of Steel noticing that Clark is just Superman wearing glasses and we'll be fine with that.

Am I the only one who thought the atomic bomb was strange in this Nolanverse?

>>34482
Batman killed Talia and the driver with the Bat. Talia is more ambigous but the Driver. Well, there's a reason Talia had to start driving.

Catwoman, is a little more ambigious. However, regardless of the situation Robin just shot two unarmed men. There were ways to deal with it.

>>34488
It was. Glad he wasn't actually killed by it. So inappropriate for Bats. Lacked the poetic justice that would have been due for Bruce, like being killed by a young child of Talia by a gun or something.

People seem to beleive that Blake/Robin is going to become Batman after finding the Batcave.

How?

I mean, not only he lacks Bruce's league training, but he lacks his resources too. What's he going to do when the suit breaks or some gadgedt needs maintenance?

>>34492

Well, Bruce had Lucius Fox helping him.

>>34492
If you've read the Dick Grayson as Batman, there were ways around those technical issues, but really he wasn't cut out to be that kind of Batman.

He's probably going to be a different kind of superhero. Either way, he'll need the support of Lucius Fox.

So

like

sequels?

>People overexaggerating such minor and trivial things

I love this movie and I love the Dark Knight trilogy and you people are weird.

The only thing I didn't like about this movie was we never learn how Bruce got back to Gotham after he climbed out of the hole. All the bridges are blown and the city's surrounded by ice.

>>34495
Nightwing bitches.

>>34497
He's motherfucking Bruce Wayne. That mother fucker probably has fingerprint secured off shore bank accounts hidden away all over the world, Jason Bourne style.

i have no idea.

Liked the move, liked The Dark Knight more (because Joker), but loved Selina. For some reason I forgot she was playing Catwoman until she smirked at Wayne in the beginning.

WTF were they doing with the corpse in the body bag and Pavl's blood? And I'm sure I need to rewatch to figure this out but exactly why did Bane and Talia need Daggert to "use" Bane for stealing Wayne's funds? To force Wayne to ask Talia to take over the board?

Not sure how I feel on the overarching theme of Batman needs to fear death. And I thought it was pretty jarring seeing Blake condemn Gordon in one scene for covering up Dent's true story and then acting like nothing happened in the nect scene.

>>34495
Maybe when that Justice League film finally gets made, they'll have no Bruce Wayne at all, and leave clues to both identities throughout the film but have leave his true identity ambiguous, but also because Batman doesn't trust them, though that doesn't sound Blake-ish.

>>34497

>we never learn how Bruce got back to Gotham after he climbed out of the hole

Bruce Wayne became the motherfucking Batman -- he could sneak on a boat headed for the American mainland, then back into Gotham, using his League of Shadows training.

>WTF were they doing with the corpse in the body bag and Pavl's blood?

Bane replaced the dead man's blood with Pavel's blood so the feds would think Pavel died in the plane crash and stop looking for him, since Bane needed Pavel alive long enough to turn the fusion reactor into a neutron bomb.

>And I'm sure I need to rewatch to figure this out but exactly why did Bane and Talia need Daggert to "use" Bane for stealing Wayne's funds? To force Wayne to ask Talia to take over the board?

Yes. Bruce had never shown the fusion reactor to anyone on the Wayne Enterprises board of directors, and with his entire fortune drained, he needed someone on his side to control the board until he could get it back -- and Bruce believed he could get Miranda on his side if he showed her the reactor.

A comment from my site:

>While it does have it's fair share of flaws, for me it's the best 3rd film in a superhero series.

I find it hard to argue the point.

>sewer showdown
>bullshit they wouldn't break Batman's back so early on
ARE YOU READY?
>NO BANE NO I'LL NEVER BE READY

>my actual face

That was great.
Also the theater I went to had this Empire Extra thing I never heard of, but it sounds like some kind of even better movie experience and I want to see it again on that.

I'm just curious as to where we'll go from here. I mean, we're done with the first GOOD Batman movie set (except Begins, which I remember being boring and dull but maybe I just need to go back and try it again), who's taking over now?

Sam Raimi's Batman would be kind of funny.

I didn't like the Talia twist, or at least not how it was done.

For Batman fans, they're going to be pissed off early on that you're seriously implying Bane was Ghul's son. Then they look at Tate's back and you're thinking "WOAH SHE'S TALIA!" but they only blatantly reveal this within the last 15 minutes. It feels half-baked.

And for non-Batman fans, the way it's presented feels like something piled onto the already somewhat confusing plot in a way not unlike some kind of spy movie. Just a twist that came out of nowhere and screws with everything you've been fed so far.

I didn't like the Talia twist, or at least not how it was done.

For Batman fans, they're going to be pissed off early on that you're seriously implying Bane was Ghul's son. Then they look at Tate's back and you're thinking "WOAH SHE'S TALIA!" but they only blatantly reveal this within the last 15 minutes. It feels half-baked.

And for non-Batman fans, the way it's presented feels like something piled onto the already somewhat confusing plot in a way not unlike some kind of spy movie. Just a twist that came out of nowhere and screws with everything you've been fed so far.

i was completely underwhelmed. found myself checking my watch every 15 minutes. it just didn't do anything for me. alfred, and crane's cameos were the highlights of the movie for me.

>Bane's 'Gay Aslan' voice

>>34528
it was supposed to be Romani. ah well.

I loved everything. Thought it was near perfect. Kinda wished Batman beat on Bane a little more BEFORE catwoman shot him, but I was still ultimately cool with that.

More Talia after Talia-Reveal would have been cool. Instead of just the truck and stab stuff.

Ummmmmm, raunchier sex scene would have been cool too. Annnnnnnnd JGL knowing Bruce was Batman is too much of a reach.

Still thought it was amazing.

>>34528
Somethings a little wrong with you. You can't account for anyone's individual taste but... to be that bored? Yeah, you must have been on your rag or something.

>>34534
That was just a tad bit pointlessly misogynistic.

After a few days of thinking about how each trilogy stands up to each other, I'd have to say this was the worst of the trilogy. By far.

Entertaining, I admit. But this film just proves Nolan needs an editor. He's almost on Nomura levels of shit writing by now.

>>34536
Thank you for policing that for me. Don't know what I would have done if I let my RABID WOMAN HATING get out of control. Phew.

>>34536
Thank you for policing that for me. Don't know what I would have done if I let my RABID WOMAN HATING get out of control. Phew.

>>34485
>Sending all the police underground
>Plot hole
You keep using that word...

Sending all the cops into the tunnels was DUMB. It wasn't a plot hole because it didn't cause continuity errors, it was just a stupid thing to do. But it was stupid AND IN-CHARACTER so I am totally willing to accept it.

>>34466
I honestly think the biggest underlying theme of the movie is that "Us vs Them" is a fallacy, and between Bruce Wayne, Tim Blake, Selina Kyle and Joseph Gordon, you've got a perfect illustration of that.

Blake honestly had ample opportunity to buy into Bane's revolution bullshit, especially when he learned the truth about Harvey Dent, but he never did. He got mad at Gordon, he resented the lies, and given his background he'd have every reason to become one of the "90%" running around the streets, but he doesn't. He's smart enough to know better, and he's a good enough person not to resent others what they have when there are more important problems to solve like madmen with guns.

To a lesser extent, you've got Selina Kyle, who was a prime example of the fact that even a petty, self-indulgent criminal has the potential to be something better. Or Gordon, who never let the power he was granted go to his head and distract him from doing his job.

>>34534
Come on TMC, I know you can come up with better than "lol period cuz ur a gurl".

Great thoughts on the movie:

http://nevalalee.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/thoughts-on-a-dark-knight/

>No matter how beautifully rendered a digital landscape may be, it’s still strangely airless and sterile, with a sense that we’re being given a view of more megapixels, not a window on the world. Even so immersive a film as Avatar ultimately keeps us at arm’s length: Pandora is a universe unto itself, yes, but it still sits comfortably on a hard drive at Weta. And for all their size and expense, most recent attempts to create this kind of immersion, from John Carter to The Avengers, fail to understand the truth about spectacle: large-scale formats are most exciting when they give us a vision of a real, tangible, photographed world.

>This is why The Dark Knight Rises is such a landmark. Christopher Nolan, who cited the films of David Lean as an influence in Batman Begins, understands that the real appeal of the great Hollywood epics in VistaVision and Cinerama was the startling clarity and scope of the world they presented. It’s the kind of thing that can only be achieved on location, with practical effects, real stunts, aerial photography, and a cast of thousands. The Dark Knight Rises is packed with digital effects, but we’re never aware of them. Instead, we’re in the presence of a director luxuriating in the huge panoramic effects that IMAX affords—with image, with music, with sound—when trained on the right material on real city streets. As a result, it feels big in a way that no other movie has in a long time. Brad Bird achieved some of the same effect in Mission: Impossible—Ghost Protocol, but while Bird invited us to marvel at his surfaces, Nolan wants us to plunge us into a world he’s created, and he uses the medium as it was meant to be used: to tell a rich, dense story about an entire city.

Tom Hardy's Bane, oh my fucking god! I can't even... I can't deal.

He's hilarious! Broke the fuck out of my immersion in the movie, but I was laughing too hard to care. He sounded like some sort of cross between Doctor Orpheus, a Muppet, and a pro wrestler acting out Macbeth. It was amazing. And his eyes! I don't know how, but Tom Hardy managed to somehow overact with his eyes even more than his voice, which was about 20 decibels higher than everything else in the movie, except for maybe the music.

This is an on-going problem in most, if not all, Nolan movies, though. He tries to use the music to sort of punctuate and enhance the moment, but he does it by turning it up way louder than it needs to, and it drowns out everything else.

Bale's Batman voice is still terrible, but I've gotten better at deciphering it, and they did less of him yelling in that voice, which is good since the the yelling exacerbates the problem. Hardy Bane was more intelligible, but still got harder to understand when he was yelling.

I had heard Hathaway was supposed to be amazing in this movie, but I didn't see that. She kinda felt bored and annoyed in every single fucking scene, and I was bored and annoyed by it. The one time I thought she was really good was in the scene where she gets the cops to bust in after her employers stiffed her. I wasn't feeling any of the romance between Bruce and either Talia or Selina at any point in the movie.

Also, Tom Hardy's performance, to me, was even funnier once I realized that Bane's character was probably high on painkillers all the goddamn time, due to the mask pumping him with them all the time. It made some of those cheesy fucking lines better.

I felt like they took away a lot of interesting things about Bane so David S. Goyer could shoe in more of his hateboner for the Occupy Movement by having Bane be the "I have weaponized your lower class!" guy and making his origin Talia's. However, I dunno, I also kinda liked that Talia was the one that climbed out, I guess? Either way, I prefer Bane being born in a really messed up Super-Max prison in South America and breaking out. Making him a member of the League of Shadows also took away the revelation that he knew Batman was Bruce Wayne as we already knew that the LoS already knew Bruce was Batman in Batman Begins. Of course, as I mentioned before, that voice was silly as hell.

I liked Joseph Gordon Levitt being Nolan-verse Robin, since I called that shit months ago. I didn't like that we hardly see Batman in this movie, but then again, I was kind of okay with that, since that meant I didn't have to watch Bale growl like a mentally ill Metal singer. Also, the mask of the Batman costume STILL bugs me. I think it's the nose.

Also, is it just me, or shouldn't Jim Gordon have realized who Batman was sooner? Like, I thought he figured out in Dark Knight when Wayne smashed into the patrol car to save them, but he just didn't say anything, or he at least he figured out during the eight years since Dark knight and was being coy about it by saying "He was the Batman!" Nope. Turns out he didn't realize it until Bruce talked about the coat thing from when Jim was a beat cop and I was like "Really? Really dude? C'mon Jim, you should have known by now." Also, I was surprised he remembered giving Bruce the coat in the first place. This annoyed me so much since Blake figured it out in like five seconds. Also, Selina not realizing was kind of weird, but easier to let go, all things considered.

I was also concerned that a nuclear bomb that big, blowing up THAT close to the City would have a larger blast radius and encompass at least SOME of the city. There's also the fallout to consider, and the fact that the bay is now irradiated. No one else seemed concerned.

At some point in the movie, I just accepted that this wasn't really a Batman movie, and it was another Nolan flick, which made it easier to enjoy, but it's still hard to overlook all the flaws. I liked the ending, even if my friend wish they hadn't actually shown Bruce and just showed Alfred smiling to be a little more ambiguous, but I'm pretty alrigfht with Alfred at least getting the closure in that Bruce ends up alright in the end, just like he always wanted. I liked especially since Alfred is gone for like, 90% of the goddamn movie. I like that Blake takes on the Bat-Mantle too.

It was a little dumb that Wayne Enterprises kept all that military stuff instead of scrapping it due to not wanting anyone to get their hands on it. Same thing with the Fission generator. It kind of bugged me that, after it was finished, Bruce read an article that said "This totally could be turned into a bomb." and he didn't really consider that before, despite the thing running on nuclear power.

All in all, a decent action movie, but a rather poor Batman film, which is how I felt about the other Nolan Batman movies, so there wasn't any real drop in quality. The Superman trailer before the movie was at least cool.

>>34547
It's curious, I just don't really feel like many of these things people say are major flaws....are really wrong. For one, I've never understood the "Bale's Batman voice is shit" thing because I can understand perfectly what he's saying and, as goofy as it admittedly does sound, it works for him. It sounds just a little bit inhuman and nasty and I like it, both aesthetically and thematically.

The point about the bomb...it's a fusion reactor. The thing with fusion reactors is that they're insanely finnicky and difficult to keep actually running because the fusion reaction doesn't self-perpetuate under optimal 'stable energy reactor' conditions. I'm sure it's occurred to people that logic dictates someone will want to turn a fusion reactor into a bomb, but anyone who knows something about the technology should understand how difficult it would be to actually DO so, so I highly doubt the risks were ever demonstrably great until someone proved it could actually be done.

And Bane's voice? Really? Yes, it's obviously edited in in post just by the volume and the distinct audio quality of it, but I don't find it the least bit laughable or silly. It's an odd accent, but not ridiculous. It's not even as silly as Khan's accent in Star Trek II. Yeah. That was a goofy fucking accent, that Khan guy.

As for the whole social commentary of the movie, I think it's fairer to say it's less of an attack on the "Occupy" movement as it is a criticism of the mentality behind it. The "us vs them" fallacy. The idea that rich people deserve to be taken down, or that they'd be any different if THEY had that power, or even that such a social revolution would work at all. Even moreso, it's a critique of the fact that people will blindly follow a mass-murdering evil asshole in the name of supposed moral superiority, ignoring the fact that all the people Bane used to make his 'coup' were mercenaries and criminals, or that really, the city went from having a ruling class to having a single dictator.

>>34549

I should note that other things that Goyer has written recently, such as the new call of duty, also use the occupy/99% movement as the villains, and basically saying "You're wrong, and you need to trust the money-people on this shit because you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about."

And yes really Bane's voice was fucking hilarious. It was like Muppet Macbeth. It wasn't really the accent so much as the the delivery. The performance was hammy as all hell.

The Fusion reactor to bomb process, at least int he film, seemed to be "Remove safety melt downs and let it melt down over the next few months." That doesn't seem to be all that complicated, and the point is that Bruce deliberately hid away a potential new free-energy source away from people because one guy said he could maybe turn it into a bomb. If it had actually been in-use as a energy source for Gotham, it would have actually had, you know, been much harder to get at then leaving it unguarded under the bay. Or, if he was really that worried it would be weaponized, why not just dismantle it?

I have heard different people say different things about Batman's voice. If you have an easy time discerning what Bale's Batman voice is saying, good for you, I usually have to think it over for just a bit to go "He said... Oh! Okay!" I think the major problem is that the louder he gets, the harder it is to understand, in combination with Nolan's use of music (Turn the volume up all the fucking way) make it difficult it difficult for me to understand. Like I said, it wasn't as much of a problem in this movie, but it the voice is silly on it's own. I don't get how anyone can take him seriously when he talks like that.

>>34549

I should note that other things that Goyer has written recently, such as the new call of duty, also use the occupy/99% movement as the villains, and basically saying "You're wrong, and you need to trust the money-people on this shit because you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about."

And yes really Bane's voice was fucking hilarious. It was like Muppet Macbeth. It wasn't really the accent so much as the the delivery. The performance was hammy as all hell.

The Fusion reactor to bomb process, at least int he film, seemed to be "Remove safety melt downs and let it melt down over the next few months." That doesn't seem to be all that complicated, and the point is that Bruce deliberately hid away a potential new free-energy source away from people because one guy said he could maybe turn it into a bomb. If it had actually been in-use as a energy source for Gotham, it would have actually had, you know, been much harder to get at then leaving it unguarded under the bay. Or, if he was really that worried it would be weaponized, why not just dismantle it?

I have heard different people say different things about Batman's voice. If you have an easy time discerning what Bale's Batman voice is saying, good for you, I usually have to think it over for just a bit to go "He said... Oh! Okay!" I think the major problem is that the louder he gets, the harder it is to understand, in combination with Nolan's use of music (Turn the volume up all the fucking way) make it difficult it difficult for me to understand. Like I said, it wasn't as much of a problem in this movie, but it the voice is silly on it's own. I don't get how anyone can take him seriously when he talks like that.

>>34549

I should note that other things that Goyer has written recently, such as the new call of duty, also use the occupy/99% movement as the villains, and basically saying "You're wrong, and you need to trust the money-people on this shit because you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about."

And yes really Bane's voice was fucking hilarious. It was like Muppet Macbeth. It wasn't really the accent so much as the the delivery. The performance was hammy as all hell.

The Fusion reactor to bomb process, at least int he film, seemed to be "Remove safety melt downs and let it melt down over the next few months." That doesn't seem to be all that complicated, and the point is that Bruce deliberately hid away a potential new free-energy source away from people because one guy said he could maybe turn it into a bomb. If it had actually been in-use as a energy source for Gotham, it would have actually had, you know, been much harder to get at then leaving it unguarded under the bay. Or, if he was really that worried it would be weaponized, why not just dismantle it?

I have heard different people say different things about Batman's voice. If you have an easy time discerning what Bale's Batman voice is saying, good for you, I usually have to think it over for just a bit to go "He said... Oh! Okay!" I think the major problem is that the louder he gets, the harder it is to understand, in combination with Nolan's use of music (Turn the volume up all the fucking way) make it difficult it difficult for me to understand. Like I said, it wasn't as much of a problem in this movie, but it the voice is silly on it's own. I don't get how anyone can take him seriously when he talks like that.

>>34549

I should note that other things that Goyer has written recently, such as the new call of duty, also use the occupy/99% movement as the villains, and basically saying "You're wrong, and you need to trust the money-people on this shit because you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about."

And yes really Bane's voice was fucking hilarious. It was like Muppet Macbeth. It wasn't really the accent so much as the the delivery. The performance was hammy as all hell.

The Fusion reactor to bomb process, at least int he film, seemed to be "Remove safety melt downs and let it melt down over the next few months." That doesn't seem to be all that complicated, and the point is that Bruce deliberately hid away a potential new free-energy source away from people because one guy said he could maybe turn it into a bomb. If it had actually been in-use as a energy source for Gotham, it would have actually had, you know, been much harder to get at then leaving it unguarded under the bay. Or, if he was really that worried it would be weaponized, why not just dismantle it?

I have heard different people say different things about Batman's voice. If you have an easy time discerning what Bale's Batman voice is saying, good for you, I usually have to think it over for just a bit to go "He said... Oh! Okay!" I think the major problem is that the louder he gets, the harder it is to understand, in combination with Nolan's use of music (Turn the volume up all the fucking way) make it difficult it difficult for me to understand. Like I said, it wasn't as much of a problem in this movie, but it the voice is silly on it's own. I don't get how anyone can take him seriously when he talks like that.

>>34549

I should note that other things that Goyer has written recently, such as the new call of duty, also use the occupy/99% movement as the villains, and basically saying "You're wrong, and you need to trust the money-people on this shit because you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about."

And yes really Bane's voice was fucking hilarious. It was like Muppet Macbeth. It wasn't really the accent so much as the the delivery. The performance was hammy as all hell.

The Fusion reactor to bomb process, at least int he film, seemed to be "Remove safety melt downs and let it melt down over the next few months." That doesn't seem to be all that complicated, and the point is that Bruce deliberately hid away a potential new free-energy source away from people because one guy said he could maybe turn it into a bomb. If it had actually been in-use as a energy source for Gotham, it would have actually had, you know, been much harder to get at then leaving it unguarded under the bay. Or, if he was really that worried it would be weaponized, why not just dismantle it?

I have heard different people say different things about Batman's voice. If you have an easy time discerning what Bale's Batman voice is saying, good for you, I usually have to think it over for just a bit to go "He said... Oh! Okay!" I think the major problem is that the louder he gets, the harder it is to understand, in combination with Nolan's use of music (Turn the volume up all the fucking way) make it difficult it difficult for me to understand. Like I said, it wasn't as much of a problem in this movie, but it the voice is silly on it's own. I don't get how anyone can take him seriously when he talks like that.

>>34549

I should note that other things that Goyer has written recently, such as the new call of duty, also use the occupy/99% movement as the villains, and basically saying "You're wrong, and you need to trust the money-people on this shit because you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about."

And yes really Bane's voice was fucking hilarious. It was like Muppet Macbeth. It wasn't really the accent so much as the the delivery. The performance was hammy as all hell.

The Fusion reactor to bomb process, at least int he film, seemed to be "Remove safety melt downs and let it melt down over the next few months." That doesn't seem to be all that complicated, and the point is that Bruce deliberately hid away a potential new free-energy source away from people because one guy said he could maybe turn it into a bomb. If it had actually been in-use as a energy source for Gotham, it would have actually had, you know, been much harder to get at then leaving it unguarded under the bay. Or, if he was really that worried it would be weaponized, why not just dismantle it?

I have heard different people say different things about Batman's voice. If you have an easy time discerning what Bale's Batman voice is saying, good for you, I usually have to think it over for just a bit to go "He said... Oh! Okay!" I think the major problem is that the louder he gets, the harder it is to understand, in combination with Nolan's use of music (Turn the volume up all the fucking way) make it difficult it difficult for me to understand. Like I said, it wasn't as much of a problem in this movie, but it the voice is silly on it's own. I don't get how anyone can take him seriously when he talks like that.

>>34556
The politics as to the reactor aren't as simple as Bruce being an idiot. Try to think about it from the point of view of the characters themselves. It's a pet project, a pipe dream that Bruce thought he could spring on his board as an ace in the hole and pull the company out of financial problems, but then someone comes along and claims that it could be weaponized and he rightfully has to consider the overreactions the board may have to this news. I'm not saying he necessarily did the right thing, but I can understand that he might do what he did for reasons other than plot contrivance.

And really, nobody in the cinema laughed at Bane's voice. I don't get this. What's so funny about it? Yes, it sounds weird, but I don't see the comparison to Kermit the fucking frog.

Also, why is Goyer involved? Didn't Nolan's brother do most of the writing on this movie? Clarify me on this, I'm kind of an idiot.

>>34557

I never said he was an idiot and, besides, Bruce announced that Reactor no longer worked and no one but him and Fox knew that a) That wasn't true, and b) It hadn't been scrapped. It's not a huge deal, it's just something that irked me. The bigger plot hole is sending almost every officer in the city into the sewers and then getting trapped down there.

Again, didn't compare him to Kermit. He was a little more of a Scottish Sam The Eagle, maybe. But yeah, it wasn't just the accent, or the filters, but the delivery of the lines. The next time you see it, listen to the inflections and tell me you're not hearing Muppet Macbeth/Doctor Orpheus. The delivery is so over the damn top. Also, look at his eyes. I get that he was wearing a face mask and Hardy had to pretty much emote/act using only his eyes and body language, but it was just so silly! Again, I don't consider that really a failing on his part though, since Bane is high like 24/7 on aerosol painkillers, and I'm pretty sure that's how an always high villain would speak and act.

David Goyer, along with Christopher and Johnathan Nolan, has been a huge part in the writing of the Batman movies since Batman Begins. He mainly is involved with the story stage of writing, and then Chris and John hammer out the dialog (I think). He didn't write the whole movie, but the part where Bane was (for some reason) presenting himself as the Champion of the poor and disenfranchised who don't know any better but to follow a madman? That was him. It's also why the Nolan Batman movies have this really odd underlined conservative message to them.

Like I said, it's a decent action flick.

>>34559
Again, the cops in the sewer isn't a plot hole. That's not what "plot hole" means.

I agree it was kinda stupid, but it was in-character so yeah. And it's NOT A PLOT HOLE.

>mfw the first fight between Bane and Batman

I loved it! Oh my god I loved it. I had such a good time watching it.

Blake was a great character, he was amazing and then
>Robin
which I and everyone else in the world called from like 20 miles away (especially because of the viral Gotham Times page) but still made me happy

and then Alfred crying and I started crying
and Bane and the mask and how heartbroken he looked and his ridiculous voice that grew on me
and Crane as the judge which totally made me lol

I had fun.

I really just did not like Alfred's part at all. He just didn't seem to be adding much to the narrative and then he just disappears. I didn't find it moving or anything when he teared up at the gravesite; he just wasn't selling it.

>>34557
Oh, we had some guys who burst into obnoxious laughter whenever he said anything.
It was kind of annoying.

There are only three things that bothered me about this movie and they are all real nitpicky.

> Why was Batman walking with a cane in the beginning, and then with the help of a leg brace, but he didn't need it later on in the Pit?
> How did Batman survive the blast?
> Why was the Joker never mentioned?

The Joker can't appear as a cameo for obvious reasons but the absence just struck me for some reason. Nobody so much as gave a nod to his attack on the city or his fate, not even when they were talking about Harvey Dent. I'll just assume he was executed sometime in the 8 year skip and nobody wants to bring him back up, but yeah.

Also I really do want to know if there was anything that would allow Batman to survive a nuclear bomb? I thought the ending was really good even if it is kind of an asspull for him to still be alive I guess (but honestly I don't think it would have been as good if he HAD died for reals) but like. How did he do it? Are there any hints in previous scenes about the Bat? I just feel like I've missed something...

>>34569
If he'd dropped the core and gotten some serious elevation in a hurry and accelerated away at like a 90° angle he could've escaped the overpressure and the heat and radiation as well as the guys in the B-29s that dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki did.

>>34568

Oh shit, did you go see the 9:30pm show at the Sherman Oaks Arclight last night? If so, that was me and I apologize if I ruined your movie watching experience. To be fair, I was trying really hard to stifle it, but Bane's voice was too goofy for me.

>>34569
the autopilot was working after Bruce got to work programming it. the patch was done 6 months before the finale.

he probably pulled an escape artist trick some time before or during the building explosion his bat plane set off where he could escape without anyone noticing.

basically, that wasn't too hard to explain.

the leg on the other hand... cartilage doesn't just grow back. i doubt they left him with the mechanical leg brace.

>>34543
But you're not dennnnnyyyyinnnnng ittttt

>>34571
You live close to me. Watch your fucking back chump. One day, POW, TMC in your face.

fuck you guys who don't like bane's adorable gypsy voice
he's like a big gentle snuggly thug
i've been talking like him for days
it's great

>>34574

Oh yeah, you live in the San Fernando Valley too?

WHY DID THE ENTIRE POLICE FORCE GO INTO THE SEWER?
WHY DID BANE'S TROOPS FEED THE POLICE INSTEAD OF OFFING THEM?
WHY DID NOBODY NOTICE ONE OF THE HUNDREDS OF BOMBS PLACED THROUGHOUT THE CITY?
WHY DID CLEAN UP CREWS NOT NOTICE AN ENTIRE LEGION OF TERRORISTS SET UP SHOP IN THE SEWERS RIGHT BENEATH WAYNE FUCKING ENTERPRISES?
WHY DID BATMAN NOT USE THAT SUPER-POWERFUL KICK HE DEMONSTRATED FOR ALL OF 2 SECONDS AGAINST BANE?
WHY DOES "ROBIN" HAVE MORE SCREEN TIME THAN BATMAN HIMSELF?
WHY IS BANE DOING WHAT HE'S DOING? WHAT'S THE POINT?
WHY DOES NOBODY RECOGNIZE BRUCE WAYNE'S FACE AT THE END?
WHY IS BRUCE GIVING UP BATMAN BECAUSE OF THE DEATH OF RACHEL EVEN WHEN HIS PARENTS DYING DROVE HIM TO BECOME BATMAN IN THE FIRST PLACE?

>>34577
I'll do my best.

WHY DID THE ENTIRE POLICE FORCE GO INTO THE SEWER?

Because it was clear he had a large terrorist force stationed there. Though, obviously, it was a trap. The police acted rashly out of fear. It happens.

WHY DID BANE'S TROOPS FEED THE POLICE INSTEAD OF OFFING THEM?

It had to do with his "give them hope before you kill them, torture their soul" thing. They did a good job of keeping them in there (until Batman showed up)

WHY DID NOBODY NOTICE ONE OF THE HUNDREDS OF BOMBS PLACED THROUGHOUT THE CITY?

The explosives were somehow mixed in building materials and cement. Blake makes this part clear. Plus, they used Dagget's digging permits to mask their activity (when the cops figured this out, it was too late AND a trap, so, fuck).

WHY DID CLEAN UP CREWS NOT NOTICE AN ENTIRE LEGION OF TERRORISTS SET UP SHOP IN THE SEWERS RIGHT BENEATH WAYNE FUCKING ENTERPRISES?

I'm not sure exactly who you are talking about, but it is safe to assume everyone underground was with Bane, or too poor and hungry to refuse the work he offered and ask questions.

WHY DID BATMAN NOT USE THAT SUPER-POWERFUL KICK HE DEMONSTRATED FOR ALL OF 2 SECONDS AGAINST BANE?

Maybe he tried. It's hard to tell. I don't think he lost on purpose. They did a good job of showing Bane totally dismantle Batman in their first fight.

WHY DOES "ROBIN" HAVE MORE SCREEN TIME THAN BATMAN HIMSELF?

He doesn't. Bruce has a really good character arc this time (more so than the Dark Knight). He's just out of costume for most of it. Does it bother you that he's not dressed up the whole time? It shouldn't. Because he's definitely Batman the whole time. This seems childish to argue.

WHY IS BANE DOING WHAT HE'S DOING? WHAT'S THE POINT?

Really? He has two important motivators. League of Shadows motivation (Gotham is a plight, must be removed, etc.) AND Talia's revenge against Batman. I thought they made this almost too clear. "MY FATHER'S WILL BE DONE" and so on.

WHY DOES NOBODY RECOGNIZE BRUCE WAYNE'S FACE AT THE END?

The clean slate program would have helped, they mentioned that multiple times in Batman's possession. Though he might be recognizable. Still, didn't stop him from being unnoticed in Batman Begins during his 7 year exodus. RAS AL GHUL found him, but that is fucking RAS.

WHY IS BRUCE GIVING UP BATMAN BECAUSE OF THE DEATH OF RACHEL EVEN WHEN HIS PARENTS DYING DROVE HIM TO BECOME BATMAN IN THE FIRST PLACE?

That is not why he gave up Batman. He never wanted to be Batman forever. Just until Gotham could take care of itself. For a while, Harvey's memory help the city turn around -- but that was based on a lie. Eventually, Batman's sacrifice seems to have the city back on track.

>>34578

Those other points didn't bother me so much (Even Bruce not being in the suit very much) but it still irks me that they sent, like, 90% of the Police Force into the sewers because, mainly, when shit like that happens, homeland security/the FBI/the army/the national guard are supposed to be involved, not just the cops.

Then again, there wouldn't be a third act (or is it second, I'm not sure) without it.

>>34578
thank you for writing this up. i'm still baffled that people wouldn't understand this. the movie wasn't a david lynch film. they spelled everything out.

Spoilers: the movie was fucking stupid.

Two things I didn't like about the movie:

The Stock Market scene. When Bane and his men escape, there is daylight and doesn't even look like it's near dawn. Then, after they leave the tunnel, it's the middle of the night. And we know it's only seven minutes later since there was a timer and everything. Sounds like an honest fuck-up by Nolan.


Also, when Batman's army faced Bane's army, damm, the scene was lacking the level of polish seen in the rest of the film. The extras in the background were noticeably not fighting but very awkwardly... not even sure how to define it, dancing? There is a moment where Bane and Bats are at it, and behind them are a cop and a mer quite obviously repeting again and again the same moves.

http://4thletter.net/2012/07/dark-knight-rises-and-the-cumulative-villain/

>>34528
>underwhelmed
That's the word I had in mind throughout the movie. Concerning most everything, photography comes to mind. The end was what I liked the most, and that's just seeing as the end of a completed retelling of the character.

I think we can unsticky/unhide this now. At this point, all that's left to do is to either COMPLAIN or PRAISE.

Btw, people who don't like this movie are borderline autistic. Just sayin.

Wow. I'm surprised that so many people were surprised at the Talia twist. The moment Bruce shows her the generator thing I knew what was going on. Only part that surprised me was that she was the kid who escaped.

That being said, the whole police force going into the sewers was really fucking dumb.

Great review of the movie right here.

http://dorkmanscott.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/movie-review-the-dark-knight-rises/

>>34715
Pretty good.

>>34730
how does he eat/drink?

>>34680
if they said 2/3 of the forces with the others being hunted down and killed or captured by the league, i'd have believed that more readily. it would have been a matter of freeing both kinds of captive cops and attacking on two fronts instead of one silly wall street "dancing in the streets", that could have been good.

basically anything involving large numbers of cops turned out poorly.

Things I just didn't like
* "Batman has not been seen in 8 years. And we completely cleaned up Gotham without him."
* Robin being "John Blake". Dude, what? You couldn't even have the reveal of his real name be Richard Grayson or something?
* Class warfare plot goes nowhere
* "Mr. Wayne, you have no cartilage." "But, like... I can just use this machine here instead of cartilage, right?" "...No."
* "Hi, Alfred here! Mr. Wayne, I know an ABSURD amount about Bane and the League of Shadows. I'm probably his penpal or something. Speaking of letters, I lied to you about whatherface. Well, that's it from me, bye everyone! Enjoy the movie!"
* Bane not being hispanic.
* "Mr. Wayne, your father left us with a lot of military contracts, and I've been hiding away the tech. Here's the car from the Jetsons. It comes in black! It does not come in non-ridiculous."
* "John" Daggett? Why not "Roland" Daggett? Why go halfway? Sigh.
* "People of Gotham! It turns out Harvey Dent wasn't so great! So I'm going to let everyone out of prison, and we're going to pretend this is somehow me falsely making you think I'm giving Gotham back to the poor people, or something."
* Batman "dies" and retires at the end.

>>34738
They combined characteristics of all the first three robins into John Blake. That's why they didn't name him Tim or Dick.

>>34739
>They combined traits of Henri Ducard and Ra's al Ghul, that's why they didn't call him Henri Ducard or Ra's al Ghul

Nope, that's still bullshit.

>>34742
Okay. We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I personally liked the nod to him being "Robin" in the most literal sense, embodying the character, not the individuals who took up the mantle.

>>34739
>combined the first three Robins
The only trait he has from Jason or Tim is "being an orphan," and Tim wasn't even meant to be an orphan until they fucked him up.

Cop? That's Dick.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=64971

There are those that want to see Batman work himself to death, literally, or have him become a bitter old man all alone like in DKR and Batman Beyond. I'm not one of them, but the "happy retirement" ending didn't please me, because Batman Begins took place just a few months after The Dark Knight, and then he apparently did nothing for almost a decade until Dark Knight Rises came out. Meaning he did almost nothing beyond what we see in the three movies.

Batman can have a happy retirement, he's more than earned it, but c'mon he has to do more than just that!

>>34745

About half the things on here are, in my opinion, on the ball, but the other half just seems really nit-picky and it seems like he's foregoing using his imagination to bridge the gap.

Like Bane saying he didn't see sunlight until he was a man isn't true int he sense that, biologically, he was a man when he was sent to the prison, but he could be referring to how he wasn't a very good person until after he saved Talia and Ra's liberated him.

was i the only one slightly annoyed when they started doing aerial shots and basicly threw the ambiguity out the window and went "yep, Gotham is New York"?

>>34762
Yes, you were the only one annoyed by that.

Congrats!

Obama's a big fan of Catwoman.

>President Obama turned film reviewer during a fundraiser last night with the Hollywood set, singling out host Anne Hathaway -- Catwoman in the new Batman film, The Dark Knight Rises.

>"She's spectacular," Obama said at the Connecticut home of film producer Harvey Weinstein.

>"And I did get a chance to see Batman," he added, "and she was the best thing in it -- that's just my personal opinion."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/08/obama-catwoman-is-the-best-thing-in-the-new-batman/1#.UCE_HqAYia4

>>34765
Yeah Obama, dem panoramic shots of her on the bike from behind caught me off-guard, too.

>>34762
Only New York I can recgnize is the one from 2 decades-old movies, so... can't say I share the feeling.

>>34749
i believe with no particular reason to believe it with all the evidence they give in the third film that batman spent some time after the death of harvey still running around as batman, ensuring that the criminals harvey wanted to put behind bars stayed there.

but...

you know...

that's not what's in the movies, is it?

Just saw it with my mom; the theater I went to actually starts the movie at the time specified, so I missed the first five minutes but I don't think it was anything super important. I walked in with them pretending to shoot some captured guys before Bane talks.

After the movie, my mom said she only saw it because I wanted to and never would have seen it on her own, but turns out she absolutely loved the movie (and she's never been the type to be into action/comics kind of stuff, though she doesn't hate them.)

All in all, knowing only a bit more than your Average Joe about Batman:
-Bane's voice was incredibly hard to understand at times but could be very theatrical at others
-Sending all the cops at once was stupid
-I was really hoping when the lady at the end said "You should use your legal name..." she would then say "...Grayson."
-lol long range heatseaking missiles.
-While I know that Catwoman is supposed to be all about teh sex, the steel (titanium?) stiletto heels just seemed silly to me
-Everything else about Anne in the suit was hot. Looked better with the mask on, though.
-The whole "I don't need a mechanical leg brace anymore" at the pit just seemed stupid. I imagine he had a spare he grabbed when he got back, but we should have at least seen some wincing as he walks away from it.
-I don't understand why the Batplane had such a hard time lifting the reactor; if we're going to sci-fi shit like that, go all the way. Double angled props for extreme radius turn with chaff and hover capabilities but can't lift what is likely one ton?

Nitpicks aside, I greatly enjoyed the film, and seeing things like Crane as the judge just added icing too it. Right now I feel that The Dark Knight was better, but I don't want to cement that until I've seen each a few times.

>>34770
I greatly enjoyed those shots, myself.

Someone made a interquel fanfilm featuring Riddler and Ventriloquist

Batman: Puppet Master

>>34858
I gotta check it out sometime. The beginning looks alright.

>>34858
Man I like the setup for Riddler and would have liked to see that as a villain in the third movie. Operating as a vigilante to unmask the truth no matter the cost both for Harvey Dent's legacy and through that the identity of Batman.

>>34848
>the theater I went to actually starts the movie at the time specified
There are still theaters that do that? That's crazy.

>>35036
I know! We got there five minutes late, thought we still had five minutes of previews, walked in and they were already ripping the wings off of the plane.

The overthinkers have a point; The Dark Knight had an underlying theme of people aren't total jerks, where the Dark Knight Rises seems to show the exact opposite point.
I will be interested to see any deleted scenes.
There wasn't enough of how people felt about the whole thing besides Catwoman being all this isn't that great.

I think it's time to unsticky this thread guys. Let's not forget.

>>35452
I think we should wait for the home release, so we can talk about deleted scenes.

BANE OUTTAKES (Auralnauts extended edition)

no one will see this post but i don't care because this is amazing

It was okay, I guess? Not a whole lot of Batman in a Batman movie. I think I agree with most of the bullet points in this.
Honest Trailers - The Dark Knight Rises

>>36085
Somebody come find me when I can buy the Bane song on Amazon.

>>36085
>>36095
Well this thread just paid off I guess.

>>36095
There's always this.
BATMAN VS THE JOKER *RAP BATTLE*