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>>226425 I don't get that complaint about Talia. She kicked ass for about 50% of the movie, killing dozens of Deathstroke's goons and quite a few helicopters. Even when she was caught and tortured, she refused to give any information away, including Batman's true identity. Not to mention the climax where she took a bullet for Damian so Slade couldn't coerce him into letting himself get killed. She even took her Lazarus Pit bath in stride whereas Ra's usually comes out of it screaming in insane agony.
Then there's this moment. Holy shit. Keep in mind, neither Talia nor Bruce is exactly shy about physical contact with the other (the yacht and sea base scenes), but during this really awkward, impromptu, and sincere custody battle, neither can really manage so much as a simple handshake. It says a lot about their respective shortcomings when put out of their superhero/villain comfort zones. Plus, it happens during the daytime, during which Batman's formidable costume and Talia's alluring catsuit look rather ridiculous.
Something to note is that both her and R'as stumble into Slade's deceptions because they're unused to not being the apex predator human; a mistake that Damian nearly replicates a few times if not for Batman holding him back and advising him to take note of his surroundings before running in guns blazing. In a way, that kind of shows why the League and the al Ghuls are so fixated on Bruce. Granted, the contrast could've been done in a manner more well-thought out than Talia raiding the castle through the front door (preempted by an explosion no less), but the writers were clearly fixated on getting to the scenes where Damian fights or quips at people as quickly as possible. Again, not an excuse, but you can see what they were going for and why they fumbled.
To the film's credit, it is trying to adopt the shakiest part of Grant Morrison's Batman run. It gives Damian a reason to be in Gotham in lieu of Talia sending him there to simply rattle Bruce and try to bring him to her side. R'as's death also creates a parallel between Damian and his father, building upon the unspoken implication that he isn't all too different from the furious, antisocial, and confused young Bruce Wayne who had just lost his parents; If that wasn't enough Talia is even gunned down in front of Damian. A premise that is arguably flubbed when Damian "spares" Deathstroke as there wasn't enough onscreen character development to make it organic.
The Langstroms served as an interesting parallel to the Wayne/al Ghul situation (note that Langstrom's wife and daughter have similar facial features to Talia and Damian's) as they are a family imperiled by the dealings between the League of Assassins and a "Bat Man" patriarch.
However, while I liked the movie, there are some things that I took heavy issue with: >Damian's "and history repeats itself" line at the fairgrounds. Removing it would've made the scene more poignant with just the implication >the Man-Bat plan being called "Operation Airstrike" >Langstrom manning the antidote Gatling cannon >the CGI vehicles >the way R'as deflected bullets at the start of the film and his really dumb clip slow motion backflip
Other than that, I had a pretty good time. I hope they learn from this rough start and make some sequels; mostly because Damian's conversation with everyone (even Gordon, who doesn't directly speak to him) except Deathstroke were thoroughly entertaining.
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