Then again, nobody said she was out of the institution.

Maybe she's actually doing really well, and has anger management relapses from time to time and isn't allowed to eat with sharp instruments, but is spending a lot of time making pictures out of macaroni and listening to soothing shamisen music.

>>106501
I always imagined her being encouraged to sort out her problems through charcoal sketches. She always ends up immolating them because they never look entirely right.

After trying everything they could think of and after she nearly burned the mental institution to the ground, the doctors finally give up and have Azula turned into a Joo-Dee (without the perky) and shipped off to live with her uncle.

Her rehabilitation was put on hold when the number of mental patients exceeded hospital capacity and the mayor transferred all the inmates to Ember Island giving them free reign. In retrospect, they probably should have asked the residence about their opinions on the matter before doing so. Ah well, live and learn.

I always though Azula in a women's asylum would be like a fox in a hen house.

all i know is that i feel bad for Fire Nation census takers

>>106792
She's too young to be drinking Chianti.

Better not give her any fava beans... just to be on the safe side... you never know what kind of firebending tricks she'll come up with next

I'm betting she's mostly lucid, with in frequent lapses. She's still locked up because Zuko feels that everyone's safer that way.

Whatever happens, I'm looking forward to the inevitable tumblr raeg about Azula's depiction being somehow ableist about those with psychological issues. :)

But... but... Ty Lee was meant to cure her! With sexual healing!

>>106849
Sexual Healing - Marvin Gaye (…
If Azula apologizes for sending her to prison and being a terrible friend, I'll be content.

Zuko and Azula get it on

Now you know why Yang made Mai leave.

>>106852
Consider for a moment that Azula was actually 100% ready to kill Mai in the heat of the moment until Ty Lee intervened.

After she got her chi blocked, Azula actually downgraded to just imprisoning the two. I mean, perhaps she was just saving them for when she could execute them herself or something else, but I'd like to think that Ty Lee's betrayal triggered a little bit of awareness in Azula even if it was only a subconscious awakening. I'd argue that it was this sudden subconscious self-awareness that helped cause Azula's breakdown rather than solely the betrayal of Mai and Ty Lee.

Azula should definitely apologize for being such an awful friend, but as far as the imprisonment thing goes, in the case of treason whose sentence is normally death, Mai and Ty Lee got off easy.

an abused 14 years old is a bad friend ---> sent to a mental asylum

makes perfect fucking sense

>>106990
Clearly you missed the part where she's also a homicidal maniac. Dumbass.

>>106992
Homicidal how? She never killed anyone.

But speak of Iroh or Ursa, they got away with it and the fandom can't but adore them.

>>106997
>She never killed anyone.
Not for lack of trying.

Crap, this sounds like a snowclone of those Vriska arguments in /mspa/. Long story short: yeah she's a sad teenager, but a damn evil one. And, untill the very end, she enjoyed it.

>>106997

Actually, she did. He just got better.

>>106990
Actually, it does, given that she's a deposed, violently unstable head of state.

>>106997
Do you think her aim was to just knock Aang out when she electrocuted him?

>>107007
Who did Azula kill?

>>107010
He was just, you know, the main character from the first series.

>>107003
Did she enjoy it? I recall her expressing a barely contained frustration that ultimately rent her mind in twain.

You guys just enjoy hating Azula. That doesn't make you good people.

>>107014

Here is a screenshot of Azula's face 2 seconds after shooting Aang with a bolt of lightning that a) required Katara to use the NWT water to revive him b) left a large, permanent scar on Aang c) fried his fucking chackras so he couldn't enter the Avatar state until some stupid last-second bullshit in the finale

Your call if she enjoyed it.

>>107007
>>He just got better.

"I was just thinking, I don't want to be firelord anymore because I'm too lazy to fight my brother. I just don't want that kind of responsability. Hey, why don't you make me a favor and kill your little sister? I've never liked that child, you know."

>>107018

What?

Iroh refused to fight Ozai because that would have been a violent, begrudged coup the citizens of the Fire Nation would not have accepted. He said that himself, very explicitly. Zuko needed to claim the throne to bring peace through new leadership, not more of the old regime founded by war.

And name one Agni Kai where the loser died. One.

>>107016
Who's hating Azula? She tried to kill people, and saying she didn't is just ignoring the facts presented to us with the show.

>>107018

She didn't kill Iroh, just wound him pretty badly. Not that your post would make much more sense if I was talking about Iroh, anyway.

Aang. Aang, you stupid asshole.

>>107017
I think she enjoyed knowing it was going to make Ozai very, very, happy.

>>107021
Aang forgave her why can't you?

I loved Azula -- easily one of my favorite characters -- but I thought her "psychotic child" shtick was given a little too heavy-handed at times. That whole "COME WITH ME AND WE'LL BURN THE WORLD" thing from The Beach is the stuff of cringing nightmares. It still stands out as a giant smudge on the character for me. Also some other lines between her and Zuko that were just too childish and one dimensional; like she's a moustache-twirling villain from Captain Planet or something.

Had they been a little bit more subtle with her character, she could have easily been the best thing about that whole series.

>>107024

No he didn't.

Well, he probably did after the series was over, because he's cool like that, but he never did in the show or comics.

>>107028
I think it's safe to assume that from the type of guy Aang was, he wasn't much on holding grudges.

Unless you fuck with Appa that is.

>>107025
She said "We will dominate the Earth!", not "BURN THE WORLD". There's a fairly significant difference between those two statements.

>>107025
That was just her being socially awkward. Her only male psychological reference is her father; how is she supposed to pick up guys without appealing to his sensibilities?

>>107032
Whilst understandable, I have to agree with >>107025 that it was overblown. I can understand and accept her social awkwardness, deriving amusement from it, but at that point it was just awkward because it didn't come across as funny (to myself, at least).

>>106990
I call Troll.

Seriously, what is the standard for being involuntarily committed to psychiatric care?

Now what was Azula's state at the end of the Agni Kai?
>>107022

That... does not help.
>>107032
Having been a highly intelligent teen that had a hard time related to my peers? Her social ineptitude is something that rings very true.

>>107034
I thought it and the volleyball game were supposed to demonstrate how fucking crazy she was; comedy was only derived from it being played so over the top with the idiot crows and Chang sidling away like he was a cardboard cutout

>>107038
>That... does not help.
She wasn't happy for herself she was happy she wasn't going to get her face melted off by fulfilling her duty. I look at Azula and I see someone driven by mortal fear to succeed.

>>107038
>>Now what was Azula's state at the end of the Agni Kai?

Asspull crazy.

>>107019
>>Iroh refused to fight Ozai because that would have been a violent, begrudged coup the citizens of the Fire Nation would not have accepted. He said that himself, very explicitly.

So instead he made Zuko fight Azula in a violent, begrudged coup. He said that himself, very explicitly.

>>107042
A. she wasn't firelord yet
B. Katara went along too and we know she can actually take Azula without generating much hubbub since she's basically a proxy of the Avatar and nobody is going to mess with him after Sozin's Comet
C. She fought an honorable agni kai and forfeited it to attack bystanders; so by the cultural standards of the Fire Nation it wasn't a usurpation; she just wasn't strong enough to hold onto what she had; they respect that kind of victory.

>>107043
1. Iroh was still encouraging Zuko to fight his sister, because they couldn't risk Azula being in a place to threaten any new government or continue the old.

2. Katara going along still doesn't really solve the main issue at hand - that the people would still be seeing it as a coup by Iroh and Zuko. All Katara's presence would mean it was Avatar backed, which will help those outside the Fire Nation accept it, but not those within. That said, it is more important that the outside realize that than the citizens, to smooth over the peacemaking process. The FN citizens would be expected to fall in line.

3. Zuko didn't head to the Fire Nation with the intention to fight an Agni Kai, and whilst you could argue that's how Iroh expected things to play out, his claim is no more legitimate than it would have been beforehand.

There's nothing that could have been done that would prevent the people from seeing the country as a coup. All they could do was run damage control, limiting the Fire Nation's ability to continue a war post-Comet and hinder Ozai's plan to raise the Earth Kingdom.

Given that in episode 1 Jinora referred to Ursa as Zuko's mother, rather than Zuko and Azula's mother, this implies she doesn't know Zuko had a sister. So either Azula died young or never left the mental hospital.

Well to be fair, Iroh didn't actually tell Zuko to fight Azula, he stated that Azula would be a threat they'd have to face, and then Zuko volunteered to fight her.

>>107011
He didn’t die, bro.

>>107048
Yeah, he did, he says it himself in the first episode of the third season. He was gone and Katara was able to pull him back at the last second. Even if he wasn't 100% dead Azula was saying he was. She meant to kill him.

>>107046
I think she mentioned Zuko specifically, because she had said she'd read about the the adventure of Katara and her friends. As Azula couldn't have been called Katara's friend, it would have sounded an odd tangent if Jinora had also specifically mentioned Azula as well.

That, and the fandom only ever asks what happened to Zuko's mum anyway, with people rarely mentioning that she's Azula's as well.

>>107045
Do you not get how the Agni Kai works?

>>107045
And instead of just taking Zuko out in a normal fight Azula had to call an Agni Kai because she was overconfident in herself. She set up the rules and she had to play by them.

>>107052
The idea to hold an Agni Kai only occurred to Zuko after arriving in the Fire Nation, as a result of a situation he wasn't even aware was happening up until that point, and was Azula's idea in the first place.

All of this means that when Iroh and Zuko decided the latter should take Azula down, an Agni Kai was not their intended method. Without the Agni Kai, Zuko's claim to the throne would have been unsubstantiated, on account of being a traitor, and most likely having been removed from the line of a succession.

>>107053
I realize that, but Zuko and Iroh's initial plan didn't really give much of a legal leg to stand on, and would have been seen as a coup by damn near everyone - which is what they were apparently trying to avoid.

>>107055
Azula wanted an Agni Kai because she didn't want to fight Zuko and Katara at the same time. Katara even mentions that this is why Azula wants an Agni Kai.

>>107055
So we're saying what - Iroh was being a dick? I agree.

>>107058
And without the Agni Kai, the seizure of power would have illegal. Iroh and Zuko were planning a coup, and all Iroh's actions did was mean that there may have potentially been no one to confront Ozai, and that Zuko was the one who ended up with the position of Fire Lord. Iroh's plan wouldn't have stopped anyone from seeing the coup for what it was - it was Azula who made Zuko's claim valid and legal.

>>107059
That's pretty much what I'm saying, yeah.

>>107060
Had they not bothered Azula would likely have banished the entire capital except for the fire sages and then had Ozai turn his wrath against her for being a complete fuckup; no one would've supported her as Firelord anyway; Ozai had officially abdicated the position. Without Zuko taking the job who would've stepped up to it?

>>107043
Nothing of this changes the fact that Iroh wanted Zuko to do what he wouldn't do himself. Actually it goes to show how convenient it was for Iroh to have kids solving the conflict while he avoided all responsability.

>>107062
Was Iroh and Zuko aware that Azula was banishing people left, right an centre when they planned to depose her through illegal means? No, they weren't - which means, as they far as they were concerned, they were planning a coup against a figure that the Fire Nation approved of. As such, Iroh's reasoning for refusing to fight Ozai seems shoddy, when he was perfectly fine with Zuko turning around and doing the same thing with Azula.

>>107064
for the matter, was Iroh aware that Azula was going to be crowned Fire Lord, or of Ozai's Phoenix King plan?

>>107065
They must've, Zuko and Katara knew to go to the Fire Nation Capital to fight Azula.

>>107065
The OWL may have found out via spies, but there's no mention made of them being aware of either. Zuko likely told him about Ozai's plan, but I'm fairly sure he and Katara went into the Fire Nation blind to the situation.

>>107066
Keeping Azula behind would have been the smart move for Ozai to make, though, and Ozai's ego is large enough that he wouldn't let the Comet pass without doing something grand personally. So it's a safe bet that Ozai would be out and about, with Azula back home.

>>107018
Strawmen everywhere.

>>107041
Not this shit again, please.

>>107070
We seem to be getting a bit off topic.

>>107042

Iroh was awesome up till the end of season 3 when he became a hypocritical coward. He sent Zuko off to fight Azula to do the exact same thing he didn't want to do to Ozai; thus making a 12 year old boy do the job he should have done fucking ages ago. Nice one. Plus, there is no way in hell he already knew of the banishings, so for all he knew, he sent his beloved nephew off to fight an entire palace of Imperial firebenders and Azula all powered by the comet. If Azula hadn't gone all paranoid, Zuko and Katara would be dead.

And then of course he leaves his 17-year-old nephew in charge of a recently defeated nation who will probably be pretty pissed at him for ending the war they'd nearly won, and instead dicks around in BSS. Zuko has to clean up the mess his family (including Iroh) made all by his damn self. Also, why the fuck is he allowed to stay in BSS when his siege (and other campaigns) likely killed thousands of Earth Kingdom soldiers. If I was an EK citizen, I'd be hella pissed that he'd just be chillin in retirement there.

>>107100
>hypocritical coward

What show were you watching again?

Right, since this is technically the second thread dedicated to the topic of "The Search" and it's getting mired down in stupid strawman argument bullshit, I think I'mma go ahead and pull the plug on this one.

>>107100
>Also, why the fuck is he allowed to stay in BSS when his siege (and other campaigns) likely killed thousands of Earth Kingdom soldiers. If I was an EK citizen, I'd be hella pissed that he'd just be chillin in retirement there.

Oh yeah, and this is also the guy that LIBERATED the goddamn city when Ozai wanted to burn it to the ground. Like Zuko, he changed and redeemed himself.