>>107681
For her? It's downright STRATEGY. Just a few episodes earlier her cunning plan was grabbing a radio microphone and going "HEY! AMON! FIGHT ME!" Trying to expose him on front of a crowd was a big improvement for her. Lousy plan by most people's standards, but still a step up for Korra, considering that when Mako went "okay we need to stealthily see what Triple Triad are up to" she literally kicked in their front door.

You really seem to think the show is bad because a character didn't spontaneously become smart.

You don't become good at making clever plans just because you found yourself desperately needing one a few times in the past few weeks. That's not how it works.

>>107685
The series is bad because apparently the White Lotus who are apparently the greatest fucking idiots of all time now raised her to be a complete moron who can't fucking do ANYTHING but hit shit with her fists.

>>107685
Seriously. There's "smart" and "smart for Korra". They're not the same thing, and her Amon plan was smart for Korra.

>>107688
They tried EVERYTHING to get her to study more! They tried scowling, and looking cranky, and... scowling some more! But some shit is hard to teach. You just have to get life experience, and she never had a chance. She's got a good excuse for being clueless at a lot of things.

Mako, on the other hand, is inexcusably thickheaded. The guy supposedly grew up on the mean streets and ran with the mob. He should have been able to come up with a better plan than Korra's really bad plan.

>>107689
It's very clear that she never even had any basic instruction in combat tactics or she wouldn't sashay into a room full of fifty guys who demonstrably kick her ass in a second without any plans or means of escape.

>>107694
. . . Hm.
You know, there's a point.

>>107694
>It's very clear that she never even had any basic instruction in combat tactics

First off, there's a difference between being taught "combat tactics" out of a book, and actually getting good at using them in real life.

Second off, I'm not sure how you could even teach the kind of "combat tactics" you're talking about. I'm sure there's plenty of texts teaching combat maneuvers in the sense of "Here's a pincher, here's outflanking your enemy, make sure to have the high ground, here's some rules about laying siege to a city..."

I doubt even Wan Shi Tong's Library's has a book that advises what to do when you're the Avatar and you need to expose a bloodbending master as a bender on front of his followers, an auditorium full of chi blockers that hate benders, and your "army"consists of a lone firebender. There's really no way to train someone for that kind of shit. They just have to be damn smart and experienced at thinking up plans for ludicrous scenarios.

Just dropping in with a reminder

The Legend of Korra - Making o…

The reairing of Book 1 with Brychael commentary starts on Nicktoons tomorrow night at 9PM! Set your DVRs accordingly.

The book you're looking for is Gui Wang's "What To Do When You're The Avatar And You Need To Expose a Bloodbending Master As A Bender On Front Of His Followers, An Auditorium Full Of Chi Blockers That Hate Benders, And Your 'Army' Consists Of A Lone Firebender".

I have a strict policy against loaning books to humans now, but I suppose there's no harm in summing up the book's contents for you.

In essence it says you're fucked and should hope for a miracle.

>>107710
Azula's Art of War

>>107717
Actually, that "book" is a trap that explodes when you open it. Azula doesn't want any rivals.

>>107716
With more than 500 pages it completely covers all the details as to how much you're fucked, but it really is a very good read.

Korra's a meathead. She's a jock. She's a very likable jock, but I don't think it's realistic to expect her to ever be that good at using her head. Maybe with years of experiences and some good teachers she'll get better, but I doubt she'll ever be very good. It's simply not where her aptitude lies. And that's fine, not everyone is cut out to be Ideas Girl. She does her best, and has strengths in other areas.

>>107689
Mako's lack of street smarts is unforgivable. MAKO! Y U SO STUPD?

You don't have to be smart to be capable of more than one approach to problems. It's a matter of having an open mind and imagination.

That said the level of stupidity of Korra's plan of "let's go into a stadium filled with enemies!" and the fact that only six of what should have been a thousand equalists even thought of attacking Korra is writer-induced stupidity on literally everyone. Korra would have to actually be brain-damaged if she thought that "plan" would work. I mean that seriously and I will emphasize that the only way Korra - or Mako, or anyone - could have thought plan would work is because of a total lobotomy.

As much as Korra isn't a genius, I don't think she's completely retarded.

>>107734
I think you're being ridiculous and holding the characters to unreasonable expectations. Korra isn't particularly clever, and she was in one hell of a bad situation, stressed, exhausted, with a clock ticking. Her plan was shit, but there were no glaringly obvious better plans available.

>only six of what should have been a thousand equalists even thought of attacking Korra

There's a core group of "Equalists" that can actually fight damn well. The vast majority are just going along, and it's hardly surprising that they looked at one another and went "the guys up there have things under control, no need for me to endanger myself." They're mostly people that were dissatisfied but not THAT bad off (remember that the actual homeless population didn't give a fuck), most of them have no great drive to risk their necks fighting the Avatar.

The only way to really beat Amon was to cut off his power base by exposing the truth about his powers on front of a LOT of his followers. Unfortunately a requirement of that is being near a LOT of his followers. There's not really a way around that. Honestly I'm hard pressed to think up something better than what she came up with.

>>107749
Without Sato and Amon they're no threat at all and both of them have to sleep some time. They had managed to infiltrate and maintain anonymity long enough to get into position to confront him; why couldn't they just kill him in his sleep?

>>107752
Congratulations.

You just made Korra look like a fucking genius.

>>107752
>Martyr him in his sleep

Wow. You managed to ensure a long and bloody war through the most honorless way possible.


You're really bad at this whole "Avatar" thing.

>>107752
Alternatively you could just capture them. This should be easy since Korra can just dress as an Equalist and sneak around their base.

>>107753
>>107754
Kyoshi would've endorsed it

>>107754
Also who cares if more equalists die? The United Republic and the world do not need people who agreed with their mindset or their tactics. They're fascistic terrorists.

>>107755
Kidnap the guy that can bloodbend with his mind?

GOOOOD PLAN.

Korra is looking smarter and smarter.

>>107756
Please. Kyoshi would have cut Republic City off from the rest of the world by making it an island.

And maybe she would suggest creating a Men In Black-like organization to protect Republic City's cultural treasures and, y'know, take it over and rule from the shadows.

Chin refused to move when she sliced a deep hole in the ground, and then he fell in because he was too fucking stubborn. Somehow people have turned this into "Kyoshi was the Punisher of Avatars!"

>>107757
>A war? Sounds like a great idea! Obviously everyone on one side would be pure evil and not just misguided and afraid, and nobody on the other side would die!

Korra's plan just keeps sounding better. Keep talking, guys.

>>107760
At least that would've been more interesting for the viewers than a literal Scooby Doo denouement.

>>107761
>Korra should TOTALLY have turned Amon into a martyr in the most dishonorable way possible, and caused a gigantic war, because it would have been interesting! Completely moronic and out of character, but interesting!

May you live in interesting times.

>>107716
>>107724
Read it in their voices.

Loled.

>>107760
And then Korra wins the hearts and minds of all the non-benders by alternatively flooding, earthquaking and burning down their houses.

Her plan won't go down as one of the best plans any Avatar has ever had, but

1. It really was a step up for her. Her original plan was to challenge Amon to a duel and then THROW A ROCK AT 'IM! A big rock...

2. I don't agree that her plan was even THAT bad. Bad, but not pants on head retarded. The best way to defeat Amon would be to discredit him on front of all his followers. She found out when he was going to be on front of all his followers, and she knew he could be discredited. All she had to do was prove that he'd been lying about his past. If he had no scars people would know, if he tried to run without taking off his mask people would know. What she didn't count on was him wearing a disguise UNDER his disguise. Who does that? Aside from Batman, I mean.

This means the Lieutenant is Robin and Mako is Baby Doll I suppose. I'm okay with that.

>>107764
I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS PLAN! We'll be done in a month!

>>107767
I still don't get why he wears a mask. The "firebenders killed mah family and melted mah face" thing doesn't seem that important given that he's not looking for sympathy but strictly anti-bender sentiment; people who already have a bad viewpoint toward benders would join him even without a mask as long as he didn't reveal he was a waterbender; people who don't have a bad viewpoint toward benders wouldn't be so easily swayed by a story that isn't backed up by him showing his scars. It's just another in the pile of hackneyed nonsensicalities. Tarrlok wouldn't know what he looked like even if he saw him and neither would anyone else

>>107769
Regardless of the years that passed, Tarrlok would still recognize his brother.

>>107770
Siblings separated by that much time don't always recognize each other. Naotak hadn't even begun developing his adult face. It just seems like another stupid "revelation" that was supposed to make the audience look dumb for having guessed wrong about everything from his inconsistent eye color to his hands.

>>107771
>Siblings separated by that much time don't always recognize each other.

Okay? Would you gamble on "maybe he won't recognize me"?

And keep in mind that when the movement was starting, he was probably not hiding in heavily fortified underground bunkers. Being able to just take off a mask and blend in with the crowds was a good idea.

It also makes it a lot easier for the guys making the posters if they can just draw a stylized mask for your face!

>>107772
At this point I'm left with nothing but my immense displeasure at how stupid "Zuko and Azula but waterbenders" was as a concept for Korra's opponents.

>>107773
At this point I'm left with nothing but my immense displeasure at how stupid you're being.

>>107769
>I still don't get why he wears a mask.

Prrrrobably because he was a criminal?

>>107773
Zuko wasn't a fascist with delusions of grandeur. And Amon doesn't share any parallel with Azula outside of being a prodigy. They don't even have the same issues.

>>107774
Wat. How are they being stupid?

Anyways. He wore a mask for a few reasons. The main one was obviously to hide his true identity in case anyone (Tarlokk) recognized him.

The other huge reason is that wearing a mask made him become a stand-in for all non-benders and their fear/displeasure with benders. By wearing a mask he was able to coerce his followers to project their own experiences onto him. The "face" of the revolution essentially became the face of every non-bender that was part of said revolution. This not only strengthened his power among his people, but had the added bonus of protecting his identity as he wanted

>>107769
A man is just a man. But a mask is an IDEA. A symbol. A battle standard to rally around and power the revolution to victory!

Also, it's a whole lot easier to lead an a violent terrorist group when all you really need to do to get away from a raid is take off a mask. If your followers don't know what your face looks like, how will the cops?

>>107783

By oversimplifying Tarrlok and Noatak/Amon for the purposes of dissing LoK.

(though more on topic, I think Amon needed the mask specifically for the reason stated: he needed a symbol, something more powerful than just a man with conviction.)

>>107788

>>107788
Amon commiting public suicide would have been such an awesome ending.

"Today, you have proven to yourselves that YOU, the weak, the down-trotten, wield more power then you have ever dared to imagine. without a single earthbender you shook the foundations of Republic City! without a single waterbender you have turned the tides on your oppressors! without a single firebender you have burned your mark onto history!

but most importantly, you have proven that you no longer need a leader, and so I will free you of my burden."

I missed the creator commentary of episode 1, does anyone have any download links for it?

http://charlestheirishman.tumblr.com/post/26871280090/my-review-of-legend-of-korra-click-image-to

Typewriters: my worst enemy. I can never align the paper right, so my sentences would always look slanted, which bugged the hell out of me, because I just have to have everything neat and tidy.

Does anyone have the full version of the poster used at the final rally? I would really appreciate it.

I whipped this up when I had some time to kill.

>>109341
What is this from?

>>109341
Oh my. Sweet wikipedia page mock-up.
What is your madness behind the date system?

>>109442

It's just a Wikipedia mock-up. You find an article, edit it and then "preview" the changes rather than post them. You take a screencap of the resulting Wiki page, then cancel the edit. They're a fairly popular game on the Alternate History Dot Com forum, which is where I learned how to make them.

>>109509
The dating system is just something I made up on the fly, as there's no clear calender system given in Avatar.

The "Korra Reign" is an idea that global historical periods are by Avatar. The "second Horse Year" is that, counting up the Chinese zodiac years from an Avatar's birth, you call a given year by the number of times the Avatar's life has cycled through the zodiac. Korra was born in the Year of the Ox, so by the time of Season 1 she's in her Second Horse Year.

The less romantic and more practical way of dating things is the "AO" calender: "After Omashu." It counts up from the supposed historical date of Omashu's founding, which I put waaaay in the past since, counting by the Avatar statues shown in Episode 3 of AtLA, the Avatar Universe is crazy old. The world uses Omashu as a reference point mostly due to inertia and cultural hegemony. It's the oldest city around, had a lot of pull over the ages, and the Earth Kingdom (like China) is big enough that the countries surrounding it tend to loosely orbit it in a cultural sense.

Here's a second one I had done way back when.

piss poor pacing and writing compared to ATLA, the amount of shit they introduced and then passed over in the finale episodes alone made me sad